Wednesday, 18 June 2025
Monday, 2 June 2025
The Buckfastleigh Case -The Search Continues
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Every-so-often I put out an appeal regarding the Buckfastleigh case because, as noted, it was messed up by the UFO group involved. Never having spoken to the female (possible) percipient they told me that her nervous breakdown had "nothing to do with the sighting" -how did they know? How did the two boys fare?
I have since come across at least two possible "abduction" cases from the same small town and slightly further afield there are two likely "abduction" incidents but each of the women involved thought no more of the incidents (despite a joke by one's husband) and have gotten on with their lives.
I would never consider opening up a whole life of trauma for them just to get details. I have not broached the subject of hypnosis with one likely percipient as he, too, has gotten on with his life despite still knowing there was a chunk of missing time.
Something was obviously going on in a small (quite small) area of Devon in 1978-1979 and despite what you might read these two years were peak CE3K/AE activity years. All of those involved at the time were teenagers with no knowledge of UFOs -the world was a lot different before the internet. To give details that only someone who has studied cases would really know in one cause would be interesting. In two cases that is coincidence but more than three cases -and in the other two where those involved only joked about being abducted as they had no recall of such an experience it goes beyond coincidence.
Ufologists and Ufology failed the possible percipients and we lost their full accounts. The main adult witness to the UFOs themselves would have been interesting to talk to but he was far from young 47 years ago.
I suspect that like many more that Ufologists would not investigate through prejudices we will never know the true story of what happened that night.
UFO Contact? has the full case
https://aeceiiikp.blogspot.com/2025/01/five-books-that-might-jkust-answer.html
updates
https://aeceiiikp.blogspot.com/2019/11/buckfastleigh-devon-reports.html
and
https://aeceiiikp.blogspot.com/2019/12/more-devon-abductions.html
1978 school sighting
https://terryhooper.blogspot.com/2019/06/1978-paighton-school-ufo-sighting.html
Friday, 23 May 2025
What Came Out of the UFO Wasn’t Friendly
Sunday, 11 May 2025
Saturday, 3 May 2025
How artificial intelligence is helping scientists hunt for alien Earths
A machine-learning algorithm trained on synthetic planetary systems has been let loose — and in the process has identified nearly four dozen real stars that have a high probability of hosting a rocky planet in their habitable zone.
"The model identified 44 systems that are highly likely to harbor undetected Earth-like planets," said Jeanne Davoult, an astronomer at the German Aerospace Agency DLR, in a statement. "A further study confirmed the theoretical possibility for these systems to host an Earth-like planet."
Often, "Earth-like" worlds — Earth-like in the sense that they have a similar mass to our planet and reside in their star's habitable zone — are found by chance, often in huge surveys that watch thousands of stars for transiting planets. However, astronomers would like to even the odds of finding Earth-size habitable-zone planets, and hence require a more targeted means of finding candidate stars.
This is what led Davoult to develop the algorithm while she was at the University of Bern in Switzerland. Like all models based on machine-learning algorithms that learn to identify patterns and make predictions based on where the algorithm sees those patterns, it had to be trained on data. The problem, however, is that although nearly 6,000 exoplanets have been discovered so far, the information that we have on these worlds is patchy. And in general, even 6,000 worlds is not enough to train the algorithm.
So, Davoult and her colleagues at the University of Bern, Romain Eltschinger and Yann Alibert, turned to another model that is able to simulate worlds based on everything we know about planetary systems. The Bern Model of Planet Formation and Evolution has been in continuous development at the University of Bern since 2003, and is constantly undergoing improvements as more data and theoretical models become available.
"The Bern Model can be used to make statements about how planets were formed, how they evolved and which types of planets develop under certain conditions in a protoplanetary disk," Alibert said in the statement. "The Bern Model is one of the only models worldwide that offers such a wealth of interrelated physical processes and enables a study like the current one to be carried out."
The Bern Model spat out 53,882 simulated planetary systems around three different types of stars: G-type stars like our sun, red dwarfs with about half the mass of the sun, and a second group of red dwarfs with just a fifth of a solar mass.
The algorithm set about searching these simulated planetary systems for patterns or correlations, connecting the presence or absence of an Earth-size habitable-zone planet with various architectures of the planetary systems.
Some correlations are more evident than others. For example, there's a correlation between the existence of an inner rocky planet co-inhabiting a system with an outer gas giant. This is the same architecture that our solar system has, with the rocky planets closer to the sun than the gas giants.
On the flip-side, there's an anti-correlation between hot Jupiters, which are gas giants close to their sun, and "peas-in-a-pod" planets, which are strings of rocky planets of similar mass and orbital spacing that have been found around some red dwarf stars such as TRAPPIST-1 and Barnard's Star. Because a hot Jupiter is a gas giant that formed farther out from its star and then migrated inwards, knocking any planets in its path out of the way, we would not expect to find a hot Jupiter alongside such orderly rocky planets.
But there are deeper correlations too, which were identified by Davoult in earlier research. In particular, the mass, radius and orbital period of the innermost detectable planet seems to be a big signpost as to whether a system hosts an Earth-size, temperate planet or not.
For instance, Davoult found that around G-type stars like our sun, the existence of an Earth-sized habitable zone planet seems more probable if the radius of the innermost detectable planet is greater than 2.5 times the radius of Earth, or if it has an orbital period greater than 10 days.
Armed with the knowledge of these correlations, the algorithm was successfully trained on the simulated data.
"The results are impressive: the algorithm achieves precision values of up to 0.99, which means that 99% of the systems identified by the machine-learning model have at least one Earth-like planet," said Davoult.
Confident in the algorithm's ability to recognize correlations, it was then applied to real observations, providing the 44 candidate planetary systems in which there is a high probability that an Earth-size planet exists in the habitable zone of its star. Astronomers can now follow up on these targets, rather than searching stars blindly.
The algorithm will really prove its worth in the future. The European Space Agency's PLATO mission is expected to discover many thousands of transiting planets. By applying the algorithm to PLATO's discoveries, it should be able to narrow down the many thousands of systems to the few that have a higher chance of supporting an Earth-like planet, allowing astronomers to find them more quickly and efficiently.
"This is a significant step in the search for planets with conditions favorable to life and, ultimately, for the search for life in the Universe," said Alibert.
The findings are published in the April 2025 issue of the journal Astronomy & Astrophysics.
Patrick Grosse and URECAT
Patrick Grosse's URECAT is a formal catalog of UFO related entities sightings reports with the goal of providing quality information for accurate studies of the topic. It is a very useful site at times but I have been asked (I have no idea why I am asked as I have nothing to do with it!) why so many really "solid" encounters are excluded?
It has been suggested that Grosse is a debunker and only picks cases that can be dismissed. I should point out that if you have ever concluded that then you have certainly not read through his URECAT!
If you go to the bottom of each page you will note "This page was last updated on October 8, 2018" so seven years ago. Why hasn't it been updated? No idea. Perhaps Grosse lost interest in the subject as that does happen and only someone "odd" might spend 50 years looking at the entity/CE3K aspect of the subject as certainly there are few people who have even bothered reading the reports or spent 20 years studying them.
URECAT is an interesting source well worth considering a read through and we can only hope Grosse updates it one day.
update.
I just found this on the URECAT home page:
May 3, 2025
I started this website in March 2000. It has more than 23 000 html files now, but this is still only a small proportion of the amount of documentation, case studies and information I published compared to the mass of information I intend to publish. Thank you for your visit and support!
Thursday, 17 April 2025
Evidence of Alien Life....maybe...might nmot be but could be....but....
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/scientists-hail-strongest-evidence-far-230523499.html
A giant planet 124 light years from Earth has yielded the strongest evidence yet that extraterrestrial life may be thriving beyond our solar system, astronomers claim.
Observations by the James Webb space telescope of a planet called K2-18 b appear to reveal the chemical fingerprints of two compounds that, on Earth, are only known to be produced by life.
Detection of the chemicals, dimethyl sulfide (DMS) and dimethyl disulfide (DMDS) would not amount to proof of alien biological activity, but could bring the answer to the question of whether we are alone in the universe much closer.
“This is the strongest evidence to date for a biological activity beyond the solar system,” said Prof Nikku Madhusudhan, an astrophysicist at the University of Cambridge who led the observations. “We are very cautious. We have to question ourselves both on whether the signal is real and what it means.”
He added: “Decades from now, we may look back at this point in time and recognise it was when the living universe came within reach. This could be the tipping point, where suddenly the fundamental question of whether we’re alone in the universe is one we’re capable of answering.”
Others are more sceptical, with questions remaining about whether the overall conditions on K2-18 b, are favourable to life and whether DMS and DMDS, which are largely produced by marine phytoplankton on Earth, can be reliably regarded as biosignatures.
K2-18 b, which sits in the Leo constellation, is nearly nine times as massive as the Earth and 2.6 times as large and orbits in the habitable zone of its star, a cool red dwarf less than half the size of the sun. When the Hubble space telescope appeared to spot water vapour in its atmosphere in 2019, scientists declared it “the most habitable known world” beyond the solar system.
The supposed water signal was shown to be methane in follow-up observations by Madhusudhan’s team in 2023. But, they argued, K2-18 b’s profile was consistent with a habitable world, covered in a vast, deep ocean – a view that remains contentious. More provocatively, the Cambridge team reported a tentative hint of DMS.
Planets beyond our solar system are too distant to photograph or reach with robotic spacecraft. But scientists can estimate their size, density and temperature and probe their chemical makeup by tracking the exoplanet as it passes across the face of its host star and measuring starlight that has been filtered through its atmosphere. In the latest observations, wavelengths that are absorbed by DMS and DMDS, were seen to suddenly drop off as K2-18 b wandered in front of the red dwarf.
“The signal came through strong and clear,” said Madhusudhan. “If we can detect these molecules on habitable planets, this is the first time we’ve been able to do that as a species … it’s mind-boggling that this is possible.”
The findings, published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters, suggest concentrations of DMS, DMDS or both (their signatures overlap) thousands of times stronger than the levels on Earth. The results are reported with a “three-sigma” level of statistical significance (a 0.3% probability that they occurred by chance) although this falls short of the gold standard for discoveries in physics.
“There may be processes that we don’t know about that are producing these molecules,” Madhusudhan said. “But I don’t think there is any known process that can explain this without biology.”
A challenge in identifying potential other processes is that the conditions on K2-18 b remain disputed. While the Cambridge team favour an ocean scenario, others say the data is suggestive of a gas planet or one with oceans made of magma, not water.
There is a question of whether DMS could have been brought to the planet by comets – this would require an intensity of bombardment that seems improbable – or produced in hydrothermal vents, volcanoes or lightning storms through exotic chemical processes.
“Life is one of the options, but it’s one among many,” said Dr Nora Hänni, a chemist at the Physics Institute of the University of Berne, whose research revealed that DMS was present on an icy, lifeless comet. “We would have to strictly rule out all the other options before claiming life.”
Others say that measuring planetary atmospheres may never yield a smoking gun for life. “It’s under-appreciated in the field, but technosignatures, such as an intercepted message from an advanced civilisation, could be better smoking guns, despite the unlikelihood of finding such a signal,” said Dr Caroline Morley, an astrophysicist at the University of Texas, Austin, adding that the findings were, nonetheless, an important advance.
Dr Jo Barstow, a planetary scientist at the Open University, also viewed the detection as significant, but said: “My scepticism dial for any claim relating to evidence of life is permanently turned up to 11, not because I don’t think that other life is out there, but because I feel that for such a profound and significant discovery the burden of proof must be very, very high. I don’t think this latest work crosses that threshold.”
At 120 light years away, there is no prospect of resolving the debate through closeup observations, but Madhusudhan notes that this has not been a barrier to the discovery of black holes or other cosmic phenomena.
“In astronomy, the question is never about going there,” he said. “We’re trying to establish if the laws of biology are universal in nature. I don’t see it as: ‘We have to go and swim in the water to catch the fish.’”
Sunday, 6 April 2025
The Haravilliers Case: One of the Most Credible First-Encounter Stories or A CE3K?
I attempted to get permission from the persons running the web site that gave full details. I have received no response. Anyway I would like to thank them for presenting the case which took me a few days to translate so things may not be as wonderfully accurate (language wise) as I would like. Here is a link to their site.
https://rr0.org/science/crypto/ufo/enquete/dossier/Haravilliers/
Dossiers Secrets also presented details including what Mr. D claims happened aboard the UFO and the link is
http://dossiers.secrets.free.fr/ovni/rencontre.haravilliers.htm
Who is “Mr D”?
Mr. D. (anonymity was requested) was a retired from a management position in the construction of high-security facilities (similar to one in Taverny ). He was described as being an “elegant grandfather” who lived simply and comfortably, taking great care of his grandchildren and his family. He was a simple and discreet man and not very talkative, naturally a bit of a solitary man. He did not read UFO magazines and regards the phenomenon, which he knows about from "hearsay" (two members of his family have witnessed UFOs) with a certain distance. He has never been involved in any research or activity concerning the phenomenon.
Mr. D. also has several blood abnormalities, but they seem to date back to his adolescence, at the very least, and were identified around the age of 20. His white blood cell count never seems to be below 18,000, which is a high number. In addition, he has polycythemia vera (PV is a rare blood cancer where the bone marrow produces too many red blood cells, potentially leading to thicker blood and increased risk of blood clots and other complications). PV did not seem to have had any consequences on his health, which seems quite flourishing. He does not exclude having undergone a first contact in his youth, but has no memory of it, and it seems unlikely to him. The reason for stating this becomes clear further on.
Apart from the feeling he always had of being "different" and waiting for a particular event, he had also long been convinced of having lived two previous lives. One was in a country bordering the Mediterranean, and the other in a small village in central France (which he had located on a map), this last life having materialized in a kind of small manor house in poor condition, often bordered by the mists of a small river. He has never been to this village, but intends to go there . He thinks he lived there around the year 1830.
The UFO (in red) and the witnesses (in blue) are heading towards each other
On the day in question Mr. D. was invited to a hunt meeting in the parking lot of La guibarderie, in the hamlet named Le Ruel , near the commune of Haravilliers (canton of Marines, Val-d'Oise). It was the early hours (pprox 0730hrs) of Saturday, 10th January, 1998. It was dak and the friend they supposed to meet was driving a white turbo-diesel Mercedes. When he arrives at the parking lot (map -red arrow) he parked and then saw an object fly over him: the Mercedes was literally bathed in a multitude of beams of the same three colours. As it hovered above him, the object created lighting effects, and "pools" of colour slide onto his clothes through his transparent sunroof. The witness believes (the account states “senses”) that these light sources are part of the phenomenon's propulsion system.
Towards the centre of the object was a kind of inverted octagonal turret seeming to protrude about 1 m from the "ship." The entire structure of the thing appeared with great clarity. In the centre of this octagon, a slightly lighter gray, was a large hollow, circular area, with a diameter of about 6 m. Despite its location, the witness is sure that it is not a nozzle: is a kind of door, he was sure of this.
The witness feels that these "holes" are the seat of powerful searchlights. Isolated in his Mercedes, he sees them converging on his car - about this testimony, we know only from Mr D. Then the object moved towards the valley and the witness felt as if the object was going to crash at which point he lost consciousness.
Meanwhile, slowly arriving along Rue des Terres Saint Denis, Mr. D.'s metallic gray, Peugeot 306 and its four occupants note the quality of the local weather; the sky appears clear and starry. Not a hint of mist anywhere. Behind Mr. D’s car a Xantia had a single occupant and his dog who was also invited to the meet.
The cars arrive at the intersection with the CD 188 and continue their route towards the meeting place, heading northwest. After a few turns, in the distance, an illuminated area appears above the horizon. It is such an unusual and marvellous spectacle that no one says anything but just looks at the outpouring of light. Mr. D. experiences a curious impression: he feels concerned by this thing and he feels this phenomenon was intended for him. He heads towards the enormous and motionless thing in front of them and he begins to be able to see detail with great precision: the colours emitted, the shape of the projectors, which he compares to powerful lighting ramps, about 5 m by 3 , like those seen in stadiums, but coloured: green, red and yellow. Mr. D. does not stop his vehicle and continues to drive towards the object; arriving at the edge of the "disc", he can see even greater detail from the left side of his car. The object, approximately 45 m in diameter, is still motionless. The car's engine does not stop.
The object gives Mr. D the impression of having a mass of several thousand tons. He also feels that this "thing" is literally at a standstill (map - blue arrow), and that all its energy is at a minimum, just enough to keep it stationary. For a brief moment, a flood of acute sensations goes through his mind: he feels a sense of sadness in the environment of this strange, greyish object. The thing is less than 10 m from the ground according to the witness. He has the strange sensation that his brain is emptying; no more thought, no more reflexes, he describes himself as an empty shell.
At the same time a kind of irresistible and uncontrolled curiosity pushes him to lower the window of his vehicle, on the driver's side, to better see the underside of the thing which, although totally devoid of light at that moment - apart perhaps from the reflection of spaced streetlights still lit along the road – “then appears to him with a host of details of perfect clarity, as if the phenomenon were slightly lit from the outside, enough so that everything could be seen”. Like the other two witnesses in the vehicle, he sees a round shape. Leaning out of the open window, he sees from below a flat and grey shape, regularly dotted with a kind of dark openings one meter in diameter”.
There is no audible noise and no vibration of the air detected. There is an extraordinary calm as Mr. D no longer even hears the engine of his car running. Now more than ever he gets the feeling of sadness that seems to “inhabit this thing and its immediate surroundings”. The car is still moving, slowly, all headlights on, but nothing seems to happen. It was at this moment that the four occupants of the car, with the edge of the flying disc directly above their vehicle, “blacked out”: no one, remembers anything.
Mr. D regains consciousness: What happened? Where is he? He does note that about 3 minutes have passed:
“He doesn't remember anything. He has the feeling that 3 minutes have passed, but no proof. The witness now knows where he is, he knows this route perfectly, he knows the distances perfectly, and this leads him to this assessment of this period of missing time: he is at the exit of the parking lot where he has a meeting with his friend. The car is well aligned on the path, the engine is running, the thing has completely disappeared. The 4 occupants have regained consciousness: a distance of 1.2 km has been covered by their car. How?”
The next part of the report notes about this:
“Total incomprehension, still to this day. Only one certainty then imposes itself for the witness: he was no longer able to drive his car, he had lost his consciousness, he had been emptied of everything. But what on earth happened?”
But now fully aware Mr. D drove into the parking area and once stopped their friend left his Mercedes and quickly described to them the incredible thing that flew over him. He was treated to all the luminous paraphernalia of the phenomenon: identical in description, approximately 20 m above the ground. He reported how the light beams converged on the ground and even completely illuminated his car for a moment. This witness did not feel any of the emotions recorded by Mr. D. His brain was apparently not crossed by any particular thought, Mr. D.'s impression is that his friend was flown over "by accident": he was not concerned by the intentions of the phenomenon (this witness had not been questioned).
The six friends then quickly moved out of the parking lot to meet up with the 25 other people involved in the meet. It is strange but none-the-less a fact, that apparently none of them have anything to say about what they had witnessed. Mr. D. will only really emerge from his mental fog around 0900hrs and then he scolded himself for not having stopped to better observe the phenomenon.
At 1200hrs all the participants in this hunting meet had a snack brought by a caterer. Conversations flow well on the usual topics, but no one mentions the sighting earlier that morning. It is as if the witnesses have forgotten what they saw.
According to the report:
“The next day, Mr. D. said to himself "I was in a world that wasn't mine." For several days, no one among the five witnesses listed spoke about what they had seen. It took Mr. D. almost a month to feel the need to understand what had happened to him”.
For Mr. D., the experience was so powerful that keeping it to himself was very difficult and yet talking about it to anyone was just as difficult, but “he still tries to experience it, also aware that his testimony can serve the cause of science, as well as the understanding of these still unexplained phenomena”. For this reason Mr. D. obtained a copy of a specialist magazine on UFOs, in which he found the contact details of the International UFO Data Bank . He called the association, which subsequently asked Gérard Deforge one of its members, to investigate and record the testimony. The latter concluded with an agreement with the witness that the names of those involved will not be disclosed - they are all people with high professional responsibilities - and Deforge will publish the interview under his own name.
On the afternoon of Thursday, 5th March, Deforge Gérard and Mr. D. talked at the latter's home for 5 hours. Deforge notices a brown stain on the witness’ face, about 10 cm2.
Mr. D. says he doesn't understand what's happening to him. After a very long moment of hesitation, he says he feels destabilized, he who was steeped in rationality and technical certainties. Looking at Deforge Gérard, he declares: “They” are rude, but not too mean. This strange sentence becomes clearer when Mr. D. reveals some of the consequences of his observation: whether day or night, thoughts come to him that are “not his own” -perhaps at the rhythm of the thing's (UFO) approach or distance, he says. The thoughts he receives are like television news flashes , coming without warning, and leaving just the same. These ideas are of all kinds: messages about the future of humanity - not very cheerful: a catastrophe would threaten us, the encounter with a large asteroid perhaps , and snippets of scientific information:
At one point he asked Deforge “Do you know about tachyons? I've never heard of this, I didn't even think to look it up in an encyclopedia to see if it exists “. Deforge replied that he was far from being a specialist, but that he seemed to remember, that tachyons are subatomic particles that had been brought to light fairly recently in cyclotrons, but that he doesn't remember their precise characteristics.
Mr. D responded “Well, it would seem that tachyons are particles, indeed, but one of their essential characteristics is that they are capable of moving at a speed greater than that of light “.
And Mr. D. from another “book” of these ideas that he receives:
“The universe would really be inhabited in all things by a binary logic. Each one governed by the more or the less. For example, what I saw, this phenomenon, I feel it as an expression of a negative entity: cold lights, sadness, dark color of the ship, silences. This ship precisely, let's talk about it again: at the moment when it flew over me, and when it stole those 3 minutes that are missing from my schedule, from my life. They implanted a kind of electronic microchip in my brain, whose function I clearly identify today. I have only had this certainty in the last few days, I was looking for an explanation for everything that happens to me, it is the only explanation that imposes itself on me. So this function is to serve as a relay between them and me, it is a system that allows them to inject me with thoughts that were never mine. And that's why I find them... rude! But not too mean. Because if they had been mean, they could have done anything they wanted to us at that moment, they were the Force, and they had paralyzed us”.
The head of the “Entity” remembered by Mr. D.
He continued:
“Another thing about this ship: in the thoughts and images that impose themselves on me, there is a sort of face, which seems as if embedded in me, in an almost obsessive way. It is a shape, a sort of knight's helmet, and I have represented it for you. I also give you this drawing, with the details that are required of me. These entities were perhaps in the ship. I see them like this. Perhaps I will have the strength one day to give my consent to specialists in whom I have complete confidence, to proceed with a hypnotic regression that could help me to find what I experienced during these 3 minutes.
“You see, for me, these armoured entities were themselves devoid of thought, of life: they were manipulated to do a certain job. The eye sockets, I see them empty. This face, I see it very dark too, like the rest. Everything is metal, artificial and without soul or conscience. What strikes me most is this sort of row of teeth. But they aren't teeth. They're plates regularly separated by a thin groove, with a horizontal separator. It's a device, it's very white. A device for communicating, sounds perhaps, waves, I don't know. It's something that can vibrate to emit, to communicate. This vision of this widely deployed row makes me very uncomfortable, that's all I can say. I would have liked to see the start-up of this machine, the implementation of its formidable power, a formidable energy.
“So, after a month, I started to pull myself together. I wanted to do a lot of checking. First, I wanted to draw what I had seen. I am very demanding of myself. I was never satisfied with my representations. So, I looked in the yellow pages of the phone book for contact details of drawing artists in the region, in Grisy-les-Plâtres. I called Grisy-les-Plâtres: the artist clearly didn't take me seriously”.
In fact the artist contacted, a world-renowned poster artist whose anonymity will remain, is indeed in the "yellow pages." It turns out he is an artist known to Deforge, whose parents have been friends with him for 50 years. Deforge called the artist: the wife vaguely remembers the Mr. D phone call. Her artist husband remembers it less precisely: he often receives spontaneous requests by phone, to which he systematically responds negatively. His works have a high market value; they are his livelihood. He only draws and paints what he considers to be within his skills, and according to his own choices exclusively.
Mr. D continued:
“So, I understood that no one would take me seriously, I decided to do everything I could to elucidate this encounter as best I could, all by myself. It was absolutely necessary that I represent what I had seen, I had all the details imprinted in my head. I decided to take intensive drawing lessons, until I was satisfied with my representations. I will give you the result of this work later - simply, on document 1, where my vehicle is correctly represented to scale, the machine whose lower headlights are off, is represented a little high. This allows all the necessary details to be represented. The truth, on this image, is that the phenomenon, at this moment, was really at ten meters of altitude, no more, as I already said earlier.
“I didn't stop there: I bought specialist magazines. That's how I got in touch with your organization. I made a number of other checks. I called the Marines gendarmerie, the control tower at Cormeilles-en-Vexin airfield, the Pontoise gendarmerie, the Auvers-sur-Oise gendarmerie, the Grisy town hall, and the Haravilliers town hall. No one saw or heard anything, I'm told.
“However, an anecdote... (note all these points were being verified by the investigator). So here is the anecdote: In the representation of the trajectory of the craft, I noticed that it had flown over the house of the Mayor of Haravilliers. I questioned the Mayor of Haravilliers, and this is what he told me:
“ ‘I have one habit that I never break: I'm an early riser, really.6, it's certain, I'm already up, every day, without exception. Well, this January 10th, I don't know what happened to me, but I slept like a log. And it really wasn't the day, I had an important meeting at the town hall that morning, I almost was late. That's what happened to me’.
“I also took other initiatives: I don't know why, more than ever, I asked myself a lot of questions about the Franck Fontaine affair, which had hit the headlines at the time, an affair which had interested me a lot. After the events of January 10, I felt the desire to go to Saint Ouen l'Aumône, to meet people who knew Franck Fontaine , I wanted to have news of him, to try to perhaps have new information on this incredible story, which has always left me perplexed. Well, believe it or not, do you know who is the person with whom I started chatting when I arrived in Saint Ouen l'Aumône? Well, Franck Fontaine 's own father . He seems completely devastated, this man. He doesn't even have news of his son anymore. They are apparently broken people. I found this meeting very curious.
“I can't tell you much more; you know almost as much as I do now. I'm going on vacation. I need to rest. I agree that we can meet again in May. I'll correct your report. I understand that you want to verify a number of things. This is certainly not an ordinary story. I don't think the other witnesses will have any difficulty meeting with you. But please, scrupulously respect our anonymity. I live in peace; I want to be left alone. If I don't remain anonymous, I won't be left alone; it's impossible.”
I really need to make it very clear that the above Franck Fontaine UFO abduction reference from someone in the 1990s is not just confusing but can be described as utter bilge/ To explain why….
The case is known as the Cergy-Pontoise Hoax began with
the report of what was claimed as a UFO abduction and
climaxed with one of the witnesses of the alleged abduction “channelling” messages
from the extraterrestrials whom he claimed were involved in the taking of his
friend. Sounds dubious from the outset and
from what I recall the French Gendarmerie were not too convinced,
On the morning of the 26th November,
1979, Jean-Pierre Prevost of the Paris suburb
of Pont-oise called the police to report that his friend Franck Fontaine had
been abducted by aliens. According to the story, the pair, along with two other
men, were preparing to drive to a nearby town to sell clothes at an open-air
market. Fontaine, their driver, sat inside the car while the others went to
gather their stock. A UFO then suddenly appeared and as the men watched Fontaine was taken from the car and the UFO
then sped away.
Fontaine reappeared a week later. He claimed to
remember little of what had happened just that he fell asleep at the wheel of
the car and woke up in a cabbage field, unaware that a week had passed. After
this the police investigation of the incident intensified and Groupe d'Etudes
des Phénomènes Aérospatieux Non Indentifiés (GEPAN), France's
main UFO investigation organization, joined the search for the truth. After
interviewing the principals several times and looking for any collaborating
evidence, GEPAN concluded that the incident was without any value in furthering
knowledge of UFOs –this was a polite way of saying that they had concluded that
it was a hoax.
However, ss the story continued to unfold, flying saucer enthusiast Jimmy Guieu published a book-length account of the story entitled (in French) Contacts OVNI Cergy-Pontiose. Guieu, convinced of the truth of the story and contended that the target of the UFOs was not Fontaine, but Prevost, who had begun to channel messages from the abductors whom he referred to as “intelligences from the beyond”. Shortly after Prevost published a book, The Great Contact, that centered on the messages he had received, primarily from one Haurrio, about the deteriorating state of Earth life. He went on to found a publishing house and gather a following of people attracted to the messages ‘from’ outer space. This endeavour proved singularly unsuccessful. No group emerged and the publishing venture closed, leaving him with a heavy debt.
Meanwhile, the ‘abductee’ had remained fairly low key but, in 1983, Prevost finally confessed to the hoax when he confided to a French reporter that he had organized the event and hid Fontaine in a friend's apartment for the week of the supposed abduction. His motivation had been to attempt to attract attention to his channelled messages and to assist in building a modern religion based on (fake) extraterrestrials.
Therefore, Mr. D’s claim of having gone to look into the case and talking to the father of the ‘still missing’ alleged abductee raises a lot of questions since it was undeniably a hoax. I will come back to this further on.
Mr. D was convinced that he was still under control from “somewhere”, and so tried to locate the place on his body where there might be “a battery or some sort of computer chip”. In the middle of March, 1998, he found two blue spots on the inside of his left big toe (shown to Deforge and his wife, when they were guests at his home), and asked a radiologist to investigate. The latter suggested a small bony growth. Mr. D. remained vigilant and skeptical about this new development.
It was noted that in the days following his UFO observation, Mr. D experienced severe eye irritation - a burning sensation which was very disabling. On the 23rd March, he consulted an ophthalmologist and the latter informed him that his eyes had been burned. The practitioner asked questions about the circumstances of such an "accident," Mr. D—not daring to talk about his UFO sighting—mentioned the proximity of a radiation device linked to his work and the doctor then strongly recommended that he tell his boss so as to no longer expose him to such radiation. Mr. D. then told the ophthalmologist that he no longer worked at the establishment and that the "bombardment" to which he had been subjected had another source. Seeing that the practitioner was starting to look at him strangely, Mr. D. did not insist and left with a treatment based on cortisone eye drops. What is surprising for such a diagnosis of keratoconjunctivitis is that his vision did not seem affected. On 8th April , Mr. D. requested and received a medical certificate from the practitioner.
At the same time as the burning in his eyes, another physical effect occurred; a sort of brown spot appeared at the top of his left cheekbone (Mr. D. immediately thinks that if he had not put his head leaning towards the outside of the door to see "the thing" better, he would not have been burned). He firmly believed that he is the only one to suffer this damage because the other people had benefited from the "Faraday cage" effect of the vehicles. This spot causes neither pain nor discomfort, and slowly disappears. This is the mark Deforge noticed on meeting Mr. D.
The physical effects were slowly accompanied by other consequences that deeply disturbed Mr. D and these consequences were psychological and intellectual. The telepathic messages Mr. D. receives provide him with some insight into his past lives. But Mr. D. does not want to comment on this.
Mr. D seems to have “a capacity for physical strength and endurance in line with what one likes to imagine in a soldier who has accomplished difficult field missions, with in addition command tasks. Even today, at the age of 62, he is a man who is capable of long-term manual efforts, and which even seem to provoke the astonishment of some of his friends who are nevertheless very athletic”. According to Deforge Mr. D’s appearance: “is very harmonious and very athletic too, without a doubt. Compared to our first interviews, I am truly amazed to see the current change in this man, who seems literally freed from a lead weight, like someone who has just emerged from a real knockout blow, and who is now rediscovering his potential energy and the form of fulfilment that he must have had before the Saturday, January 10.” But Deforge went on to note: “However, MD tells me that again, there are times when he feels the grip of the phenomenon, which sometimes seems to guide him, so to speak. He also insists that we should not dwell too much on the circumstances of the phenomenon, but on its general significance, which he perceives as quite formidable, for Humanity, in terms of announcement effects”.
Mr. D. mentioned that he had the clear impression that he was "well regarded" by the entities and that his life had been marked by a great deal of generosity towards others, particularly his children and his colleagues in the workplace. His wife confirmed this, He stated, with a smile, that he may be among the 422,000 chosen ones who will be saved after the final apocalypse. Deforge notes that:
“his remark is
curious, at a time when a group of experts of different nationalities and
faiths have just joined forces for a new attempt to decipher the last book of
the Bible, and have therefore published a groundbreaking work on this subject.
The proximity of this deadline and the story of the 422,000 are widely
discussed. Even more disturbing, this book evokes this apocalypse in the form
of a third world war. Current events make everyone think that this terrible
eventuality may not be entirely utopian, in the more or less long term, given
the ingredients of the crisis, which are extremely serious. However, it must be
recognized that the conditions evoked by this work are not met, since the
origin of this conflict would be geographically located in Southeast Asia,
(initial involvement of
On Wednesday, 6th May Bruno Cornec's article appears in the Gazette du Val-d'Oise, entitled A flying saucer in the sky of Haravilliers? An appeal for witnesses was been made. As far as I can discover there were no responses to that appeal.
On the afternoon of Wednesday the 13th there were 3 more hours of interview. On this last day, at the invitation of the investigators, the deputy editor-in-chief of the "Gazette du Val-d'Oise" participates in part of the interview.
Mr. D., even long after this encounter, still wonders why he did not stop his vehicle at that the time of the sighting. Mr. D recorded what happened to him and continued to happen through various manifestations, on sheets of paper currently numbering around forty: he keeps these sheets to himself as a sort of personal diary.
On Monday 18th, none of the witnesses had the desire or the opportunity to meet again to discuss what they saw. Today, when Mr. D runs out of medication, he still feels painful effects in his eyes. He wants to be left alone, in his anonymity. He fears that disclosing what happened to him will attract investigators that he absolutely does not want to meet: he has given enough. Since he experienced this phenomenon, according to the reactions of his family, especially his son, they find him much more inclined to discuss, to externalize his ideas and impressions, to the point that his son, having difficulty recognizing his father in these moments, gently reprimands him..
Mr. D was a fairly heavy smoker but after his alleged encounter every time he smokes, he feels this “horrible UFO smell” –a fetid, rotten smell, as he described it.
He thought he had understood the message of the entities: On the anniversary of the Saturday, 10th January, 1998 encounter, that is to say as close as possible, Saturday, 9th January, 1999, he was participating in a new hunting meeting. As he got out of his car, at the the parking lot, he felt pushed by a strange force which made him fall. And he fell in such a way that his metal cigar case was the first to come into contact with the ground and that impact injured his side. So he went to consult a doctor. For him, the meaning was clear: “ I deliberately refused to stop smoking, so that's out of the question! - Well, they kindly reminded me to order, because they want me to stop smoking, and it's still out of the question for me!” It should be noted that "the smell of UFO" is often present in Mr. D's everyday life, and that it causes him additional inconvenience. He seems to be the only one to notice it.
A little before Christmas 1998, Deforge received a phone
call from Jacques Vallée who had learnt of the case in LDLN , and expressed his
desire to share with him the continuation of the investigation, on the occasion
of a trip to the
Everyone met on Saturday 6th and Mr. D. drives everyone back to the route he took that morning in 1998, as he usually does whenever he goes to his hunting appointments. Mr. and Mrs. D drove Jacques Vallée and his wife, while Deforge Gérard followed in his car. They took the Saint Denis path, which crosses Le Ruel, and stop once after a bend where the witnesses had seen the object. Mr. D. confirms everything he had already explained.
References :
Un récit incroyable... corroboré par 5 témoins ? par Gérard Deforge Lumieres Dans La Nuit N° 349, 1998-01/02)
Haravilliers par Emmanuel Delinger (1999).
The fact that there might have been confirmation of the UFO sighting by the Mercedes driver would make this a “simple” UFO sighting. However, from what I can find out he states this was a brief sighting. Mr. D confirms this as “3 seconds” so, unlike many on board cases where 15 -40 minutes or more are missing and during which we can presume any entities carry out what they need to three seconds seems to exclude this.
There is the eye irritation and even a skin mark. Now, if we believe that this was a crafted object and what was seen were parts of its propulsion system –Mr. D jumps to many conclusions – then it is possible that a small dose of radiation(?) hit him. But that might also be the case if this was a natural and uninvestigated form of energy (UNP) which has some interesting side effects. The human mind leaps straight away to “a craft” just as it does on seeing ball lightning and stating that it seemed intelligently controlled.
Apart from one confirmation of the UFO sighting the most detailed is Mr. D’s and that does not make this an “indisputable” case. Could the pulsing lights have caused a mild seizure making Mr. D think he was not in control of the car for three seconds as his attention was drawn to the objected –distracted? Mr. D also noted that his “mental fog” lifted after 0900 hrs and no one was talking about the UFO sighting but acting normal. This seems to suggest that while there may have been a UFO sighting everything else is in Mr. D’s imagination.
This “warping of time” in which far more happened than was thought I do not believe. The Mercedes driver blacked out but he also saw the object shoot over his friends’ approaching vehicle and confirming that the sighting lasted 3 seconds ? Also we have the later visions of the metal entities. If the abduction took place then surely the men would have been late for their hunt meet but, no, it is insisted, the encounter took 3 seconds in real time.
Then we have the personality changes –his son even chastising him at times- and all of the things that suddenly filled his mind. This sounds more like mental health issues –even if started by the sighting. Mr. D felt that the sighting was actually meant only for him. He believes that he is chosen and that these intelligences regard him fondly. He is quiet and fond of the family but then changes personality and spouts out things that no one understands. Along with the odd odour he smells I see more than a few red flares shooting up into the sky.
We have the 1979 Franck Fontaine faked abduction which was, by 1980, a known hoax. Yet, 25 years later Mr. D visited the area and spoke to the father of the (not) ‘still missing’ Fontaine who had no idea what happened to his son or where he was. The fact that he attaches significance to the elder Fontaine being the first person he spoke to also raises questions.
The eye condition could be caused by another factor as could the brown mark. What we have here is a case in which a number of people –one main witness being the source of all the information about what happened in his car and one who confirms a brief UFO sighting (which Mr D believes was the entities looking for him. We have Ufologists and video makers ignoring the major problems in this case and if they note the 3 second duration it is to suggest that aliens warp space-time. Suggesting that there was an abduction and implants does not give the account any credibility let alone those claiming such.
This case in one that would get a low credibility rating because, as noted, there is no physical evidence just observation. As a claimed more complex case it is very low in rating –about 0 to be honest. At any time did someone trained in psychology speak to Mr. D to assess him? If any French researchers can offer information that counters my assessment then that is more than welcome as my purpose is to offer as accurate an assessment as I can for people seeking the truth and if I have to say “Sorry –I got it all wrong” then I will.
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