Just bought Lights Over Fife and The Falkland Hills deep dive books so Falkland Hills will be covered..
This research is costing me a fortune -because Ufologists will nopt cooperate -"Buy my book" says itr all
Just bought Lights Over Fife and The Falkland Hills deep dive books so Falkland Hills will be covered..
This research is costing me a fortune -because Ufologists will nopt cooperate -"Buy my book" says itr all
I have been looking at the Vodovoz alleged abduction case and have found that all Ufologists have on it is a video interview. Online Ufologists and idiots with blogs cite the case but get the first name wrong -is it Cindy or Cynthia? Surname-is is Valadez or Vodov or Vodozov?
All quote the same source but here is the thing: not one of them has read that source. At the moment I am trying to access said source and then we'll see exactly what is what.
Then (when it comes to Eupora, 1973) we have the comical situation of MUFON not wanting to investigate an old case because "it's would just be a story" and yet MUFON has built up its finanaces on...stories, fake events and much more.
I have tried every Ufologist in the US I can and even "paranormal" investigators. None interested in what could turn into a major historical case. News media and radio as well as podcasters -absolutely no interest.
I have appealed online -my blogs and even (this is how desperate it gets) Reddit. Nothing. If this was in the UK I would be taking a train to the location and asking questions and doing online searches for the witnesses -the current U.S. administration has made it more difficult for those outside the States to access online data.
I would say that when screaming out "Science won't take us seriously!" a Ufologist should be looking in a mirror.
For those who don't know:The Llŷn Peninsula is a peninsula in Gwynedd, Wales, with an area of about 400 km², and a population of at least 20,000. It extends 30 miles into the Irish Sea, and its southern coast is the northern boundary of the Tremadog Bay inlet of Cardigan Bay.
Lucia Gillot, 61, recalls her unforgettable encounter with a
mysterious figure on the
Do aliens exist? Few debates have proved as enduring – or as divisive – as the question of whether there is life beyond Earth.
‘I felt like it wanted to approach us – we ran like hell’
Lucia Gillot was 17 when she came face to face with
something she still cannot explain. On a late-night walk in 1982 near her
family’s second home near Nefyn, on the
“My friend and I had driven out late at night to a remote stretch of countryside for a walk,” she says. “We parked up and started down this narrow lane, barely wider than a car.” The road ran straight ahead before dipping gently out of sight. About 100 yards away, she saw something approaching. “It looked like Darth Vader, but with really long arms that hung below the knee. They looked like tubes with a soft, white fluorescent glow. They didn’t bend. They just swayed.”
This strange sighting couldn’t be put down to alcohol, as Gillot and her friend were “completely sober.”
The being, she recalls, was coming directly towards them.
And although they could hear heavy footsteps, it appeared to be floating. “My
friend tried to reassure me,” says Gillot. “He said, ‘Don’t worry, Lou, I’ve
got my
The pair remained frozen for two minutes until headlights appeared from behind the figure. As the beams swept forward and caught the being in their glare, it vanished.
The lane was bordered by high hedges on both sides. There was nowhere for the figure to go, so Gillot believes it must have “disappeared” into thin air.
“There was no sense that it was trying to catch us, but I felt like it wanted to approach us,” she says. Still spooked after it vanished, the two ran “like hell” back to the car and quickly drove away.
Now 61 and living in Derbyshire, Gillot has never forgotten – or been able to explain – the encounter. “It’s something that always stuck with me, but I never talked about it until now”, she says.
“I would define an alien as something that is not of this earth. That being definitely wasn’t of this earth. A few years ago, I came across a book [The Uninvited: The True Story of Ripperston Farm by Clive Harold] about a family in the same area who kept getting alien visitations. I felt it supported my experience.”
Despite her eerie encounter, Gillot isn’t disturbed by the prospect of alien life. “I sense that the ETs are looking out for us”, she says.
Apparently if you belong to MUFON you cannot investigate nnything unless "mummy and daddy say so". I contacted SW MUFON UFO UAP Investigation and told them about the Eupora case. It would be aq cold case and this is what I got in response:
We take UFO reports from people who have seen UFOs. Without an eye witness coming forward there's nobody to interview. We don't track people down and ask them if they are willing to talk about their experiences.
there are many UFO podcasters who also investigate - such as The Curious Realm, if the case is of interest they could do a show about it and renew interest
If you want to reach out to witnesses and encourage them to make a report, please do
a case that old would have no evidence, we couldn't go to a location and gather evidence, and if the witnesses aren't coming forward to tell their story and give eyewitness testimony, it's just a story.
Which means people have to run to MUFON or be ignored and that, even with names MUFON will NOT try to trace people involved in what could be amajor old incident. "it's just a story" seems like an excuse to not deal with a CE3K since MUFONs whole approach to the subject is Grey abductions and making even old non Grey cases Grey cases>
It's over 30 years since I asked Wal;t Andrus Jr, then head of MUFON what solid evidence they had gathered over the years. His response (letter still in a file) "No such thing". Let's see what a search asking what hard evidence MUFON has gathered since then finds:
Does anyone know of any UFO investigators in the Eupora, Webster county, Missouri or in the state itself and are independent of MUFON and can look into cases without having to wait for someone to approve it?
The Eup0ora multi witness sighting of 1973 was ignored by local investigators despite Hynek and Ted Bloecher requesting the case be looked into because the witnesses were black. It could be a potentially very imp-ortant Close Encounter of the Third Kind butthe witnesses are not getting any younger and we need to get their accounts before they are lost forever.
Contact me at
Boxing up the CE3K/AE archive folders into 6 archive boxes (likely to be burnt) so decided to post a few bits an pieces.
Source: APRO Bulletin, Vol. 32, No. 2 (May 1984)
"ENCOUNTER IN ALABAMA"
The following case is the result of a lead furnished to APRO by Bob Gribble of Phenomena Research Hot Line, and follow-up and investigation was completed by Field Investigator Ed O. Brown. The name of the witness and some identifying names of the exact location have been changed to protect the principal, as requested.
Mrs. Pat Norris, 28, lives with her husband, Carl, and three children in a suburb of Mobile, Alabama. On the evening of February 3, 1983, she had visited a friend in Mobile and when the friend's husband arrived from work, Mrs. Norris left and headed home on Highway 90. She had turned off the Highway and when about 90 minutes' ride from her home she heard an explosion. At this point, her car began to vibrate and continued to do so, making it difficult for her to steer. She negotiated another turn off the road she was on, brought the car to a halt, opened the car door and leaned out and down and looked to ascertain if the transmission could have been causing the trouble. It had not.
OBJECT SEEN
Mrs. N. continued driving and the vibrating stopped. She executed another turn onto another road and saw that the woods ahead were brilliantly illuminated. At first she thought that there was a helicopter search in progress because of the lights and was very frightened. She again stopped the car, and at this point sighted a huge object about l/2 mile west of her. She now feels the explosion she had heard earlier was the object coming down over a clay and gravel pit in the vicinity.
The thing was huge — later estimated to be 7 to 8 stories (70 to 80 feet) high and "six telephone poles" (210 feet) wide, and appeared to be moving toward her at 4-5 miles per hour. The evening had been clear and cool and she had driven with the car windows closed. After the explosion, she noted a "chopping wind, a high-pitched sound and a roaring sound" as well as the vibration. She particularly noted the "whipping of the wind — like a tornado."
FEAR GONE
When the object reached a point fairly close it stopped and all of the noise stopped. It was completely silent and Mrs. Norris lost all of the fear she had felt before. She then got out of the car to get a better look. She strained to take in every detail — feeling like a child with "unbelievable happiness."
Mr. Norris said that although Pat told him of her sighting after it happened, he didn 't realize how important it was to her until she started checking books out of the local library pertaining to UFOs and "related subjects."
She estimates the time duration of the sighting as five minutes. As the craft appeared Mrs. Norris' attention was drawn to a top deck with a long window which she estimates 53 feet and through which she viewed 20 to 30 persons, apparently oblivious of her presence, walking about as if they were changing shift. The wall behind them was curved and white. There were no instruments. The people did not give the appearance of looking out. The beings were pale skinned, dressed in white one piece suits. She judged them to be about our height, five feet 10", quite slender but with chests larger than ours, the top of the head more prominent, no hair, and having the lower half only of ears similar to our own. She noted nothing out of the ordinary about the eyes. What did draw her attention was the great grace of their movements. The atmosphere seemed "sterile."
DETAILS OBSERVED
Below this top deck window was an opaque window. The area around it was all white. This window was in sections and was inset. The glass was tinted.
Below the center of the craft a door was closing from right to left. (See drawing). And she looked onto a street that was dark as if made of asphalt or possible concrete. Off to the side of this street was tubular rectangular equipment. All across the craft she saw rivets and portholes. She said she could see the portholes "inside out" as she peered into the craft. She saw some construction that included "huge I beams like they put ships together with and beams holding the glass in there." The bottom side was tiered upwards. The construction reminds her of a ship or submarine. She said it seemed possible, very likely, it could have been constructed here on Earth.
The very bottom of the craft was formed into a cross made with one foot square mirrors and an observation deck hung down and around the bottom with beings in it. In this case, unlike the top deck, the people were peering out, while overhead she heard a very low pitched but clearly audible (almost like a growl) "announcing" coming from the area of the observation deck now closest to her.
Mrs. Norris said she believes they didn't realize she was there until directly over her position.
As drawn, she saw four pipes projecting six to eight feet out from the craft set in three or four foot square boxes. They had a hollow flange on the end like a tank cannon and she believes "it looked like a weapon."
The craft took a southerly turn as it went on from where she was parked. She said it was staying in the wooded area and did not cross Highway 90 again. Possible it was doubling back towards Irvington and Pascagoula. It lit up the wooded area, and all beneath it as it moved on off. It had white spotlights and to the side blue and red lights that intermingled, pointing up to the clouds and then down to Earth.
She told Mr. Brown she had prayed she might have such a sighting. She had extensive dream material both prior to and after the February 4 incident. The late dreams contain a detailed physical examination and scan of her emotions, which we expect to present later, when prepared.
After the object was out of sight, Pat continued on home, arriving at 1:10 a.m.
I woke up after a couple hours sleep and the first thing I thought of was the Maurice Masse Valensole encounter in 1965 (covered in detail in UFO Contact).
Maurice Masse AE/CE3K archive
Masse had a conversation with two entities. No, they were NOT "Greys" as depicted in retellings over recent years. No, Masse remembered everything and there was no missing time or onboard examination.
Masse was followed, spied on and there were even attempts to threeaten/bully out of him all the details of the encounter -by Ufologists because it was THEIR right to know. Masse stood by the promise he had made that he would never reveal what was said not even to his wife. He kept his word and the full details died with him. Not even a written record.
Streets of Silence version...surname incorrect but this seems to happen in several online sources -internet Ufology 2026. Also as soon as Budd Hopkins gets involved all bets are off whether genuine originally or not.
In October 1973, 12-year-old Cynthia Vadavas and her mother were driving along US 31 near Gardendale, heading to a dance class in Birmingham. During this night journey, Cynthia noticed an unusual object in the sky. She described it as a large, round, bright green object with a yellow ring around it, visible above the treeline and keeping pace with their vehicle.
The object's presence was concerning enough that Cynthia's mother verbally wondered if it might land. As they continued driving just north of Gardendale, the object began descending directly in front of their car. Suddenly and without warning, their vehicle stalled near an intersection. Cynthia observed that several other cars in the vicinity had also stopped.
The object appeared to hover near some power lines, seeming "bigger than a plane" according to Cynthia's recollection. Her mother rolled down the window despite Cynthia's distress. In the car next to them, a man with a lit-up face leaned toward them when Cynthia's mother asked if he thought it was a UFO, to which he replied affirmatively.
Following this exchange, Cynthia recalled feeling an unusual heaviness throughout her body as a bright light shone into their car. She found herself unable to move, as if paralyzed by an unknown force. This was her last clear memory before an abrupt discontinuity in her recollection.
The next thing Cynthia remembered was sitting in the car with her feet in her mother's lap. A car door slammed against her back, which seemed to awaken both Cynthia and her mother simultaneously. Her mother frantically attempted to restart the vehicle, which eventually started, allowing them to continue their journey to the dance class. They arrived approximately 40 minutes late.
In 1986, thirteen years after the incident, Cynthia met with Dr. Richard Neal, a hypnotist, to explore her missing memories. Noted UFO researcher Bud Hopkins also participated in the case. Under hypnosis, Cynthia recalled seeing numerous stopped cars at the intersection, initially assuming there had been an accident. She described "mayhem" with people screaming and gesturing before becoming suddenly subdued.
According to her hypnotic regression, three small whitish beings approached her door, opened it, and pulled her from the vehicle despite her resistance. She recalled being transported into a craft with a bright white interior and placed on a table alongside another young girl with "sandy curly hair."
Following the incident, Cynthia's mother contacted her father, Irvin Vadavas, who worked with the Federal Aviation Administration in Birmingham. He immediately dismissed their experience, suggesting the object was simply a NASA rocket test.
The following year, the family relocated to Washington, and Cynthia later moved to Los Angeles to pursue dance. Despite these changes, she remained troubled by the incident and couldn't dismiss it from her mind.
In 1990, Frank Sikora, a civil rights historian and writer for the Birmingham News, interviewed the now 28-year-old Cynthia about her experience. Jeff Ballard, the state director of the Mutual UFO Network at that time, hoped Cynthia's public account might encourage others who were on US 31 that night to come forward.
Cynthia mentioned that after their sighting, her father received a call from someone claiming to be an Air Force colonel who reported seeing a UFO, but her father couldn't track this person down for verification. The year 1973 has been documented as particularly active for UFO sightings, earning the nickname "the year of the humanoids" due to numerous reported alien encounters.
In 1986, Cynthia Vadavas took a significant step toward understanding the puzzling events from her past. After years of troubling uncertainty about what had occurred that October night in 1973, she sought professional help from Dr. Richard Neal. As an obstetrician-gynecologist with expertise in hypnosis, Dr. Neal offered a potential pathway to access the missing memories that had haunted Cynthia for over a decade.
The meeting represented Cynthia's determination to uncover the truth behind her experience. Having relocated to Los Angeles to pursue dance, she remained unable to dismiss the incident that had occurred near Gardendale when she was just 12 years old. Dr. Neal's hypnosis techniques presented a possible means to retrieve the lost time and fill the gaps in her recollection.
Cynthia's case drew the attention of prominent ufologist Bud Hopkins, who became actively involved in the investigation. Hopkins, recognized for his extensive work in alien abduction research, recognized the significance of Cynthia's experience and collaborated on the case. His expertise proved valuable as the hypnotic regression sessions revealed increasingly complex details about the encounter.
Hopkins's participation highlighted the unusual aspects of Cynthia's case, particularly the public nature of the incident. Unlike most reported abduction cases where encounters occurred in isolation, this event allegedly took place on a busy highway with multiple witnesses. The involvement of such a respected figure in UFO research lent additional credibility to Cynthia's account.
Under hypnosis, Cynthia provided remarkable details about her experience that night on US Highway 31. She described seeing numerous cars stopped at an intersection, initially assuming there had been an accident. According to her regression testimony, she witnessed a tall, thin humanoid figure walking between vehicles, seemingly putting people into trance-like states as it passed.
Cynthia's hypnotically recovered memories included these key elements:
Three small whitish beings approached her car and forcibly removed her
She attempted to resist by gripping the air conditioner vents, which broke
She was "floated" into a craft with a bright white interior
Another young girl with "sandy curly hair" was present on a separate table
A medical examination took place, including an injection in her navel
She was returned to her mother's car inside a "transparent globe"
The regression session revealed that when the beings placed Cynthia back in the vehicle, the car door slammed on her back—the precise moment where her conscious memory resumed. This detail aligned with her original recollection of suddenly "waking up" in the car with her mother, finding themselves 40 minutes late for dance class.
Hypnosis revealed why a figure would walk openly down the highway. It systematically placed witnesses into trance states, affecting multiple vehicles and drivers simultaneously. This approach differed dramatically from typical cases where entities operate covertly.
Hypnotic recovery suggested the presence of another abductee - a girl Cynthia had never mentioned in her conscious memories. This discovery raised questions about potential patterns in selection criteria for these alleged examinations.
source Things Visible and Invisible https://www.tvi.show/nexus/alabamas-shocking-ufo-abduction-the-1973-vodovoz-encounter
Well, what a merry chase the internet idiots give us. It is CINDY Vodovoz so there is no credibility in reporting here. The Centree for UFO Studies has checked and they have no information so I am trying to get a copy of the Klass file.
There must be someone in the Eupora, Mississippi who can actually just track down if the witnesses are still alive -I'll do the rest!
MUFON/UIfologists as well as local press/media appear totally disinterested.
"Terry -have you seen this one?" My friend asked. I followed the link to a Scottish UFO forum where it seemed anything but actual...