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I am a little  bit more upset at the fact that no one has bothered to comment or to offer up details of new or little known CE3K/AE cases.  This can be done via FB messenger or via my email -aopbureau@yahoo.co.uk

There IS interest but seeming indifference to communicate -I stand a better chance at a face-to-face with aliens than blog readers!  :-)

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The Allagash Abduction -updated appraisal

I sat down over the weekend to read Raymond E. Fowler's The Allagash Abductions -Undeniable Evidence of Alien Intervention. You will note -by all the Post-It notes- that quite a few things were questionable or needed looking at.

The following is my final (internet) appraisal of the case.

This 1976 incident was not included in my book UFO Contact? because there were claims and counter claims being made.  These claims against the event being a real one turn out to be very weak at best. They seem to depend upon "inconsistencies" in the accounts that were given yet far from factual inconsistencies.

The mind plays many tricks and after a traumatic event it is necessary to treat the percipient(s) carefully. Not suggesting things that that can then be woven into a false memory. If you take something said in an edited interview whether recorded for TV, radio or a newspaper there are bound to be what some call inconsistencies since journalists are there to sell a story or attract views/controversy. Having looked at the alleged inconsistencies I find that none stand up to scrutuny of any real kind.

It is noted that Chuck Rak recanted his story.  He claims that it was all a story concocted to gain money. In fact, Rak appears to have seemingly felt isolated by the fact that the Weiners and Foltz could recall what had happened at the Allagash and become closer while he failed as a subject of hypnosis -which he clearly stated was a great disappointment as he thought hypnosis would make him re-live the experience with "all four senses". It is very probable that Rak may have resisted hypnotic regression because he subconsciously did not want to relive what happened. Fowler states that Rak was a true "macho man" and he certainly appears to have shown this from the Allagash account and his life profile. If the Weiners and Foltz had difficulty over certain events such as sperm taking and not being able to resist what they were 'told' to do then Rak certainly might have had problems. I have no doubt that he put on a brave face but whether he really wanted to relive the event is open to debate.

Interestingly, Rak confirmed all the details of the UFO sighting but for whatever reason (lack of recall) denies the abduction scenario. I am aware of very "macho" people who underwent traumatic events (non UFO) but denied them, sometimes violently while others involved were more open  (Male combat veterans’ narratives of PTSD, masculinity, and health paper by Nick Caddick  Brett Smith  Cassandra Phoenix published: 20 January 2015 and Militarized Masculinity and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder by Sandra Whitworth In Jane Parpart and Marysia Zalewski (eds.), Rethinking the Wo/man Question in International Relations, (London: Zed Books, 2008), 109-126 look at the masculinity of military men facing trauma etc).

Despite an internet source such as Wikipedia stating that the case was "an alleged multiple persons abduction case, which was revealed as a hoax in 2016" and citing Potila, Jessica (2016). "Subject of 1976 UFO incident casts doubt on 'Allagash Abductions'" Rak, the subject involved, confirmed the UFO sighting again but was obviously bitter and resentful -again, possibly because he did not want to event to have been real because of the implications.

As I noted in UFO Contact? and in more detail in Contact: Encounters With Extra Terrestrial Entities? the percipients in these events are without doubt suffering from Post Traumatic Stress -in his book Fowler refers to this having been detailed by Dr Jacobs (prior to Dr Jacobs "going off the deep end").  The solution?  More hypnosis. The logical, sensible and human action to take should be treatment by a person medically qualified to handle PTSD cases not Ufologists and Ufological hypnotherapists.

Certainly the Weiners and Foltz experienced flash-backs in their dreams. It is clear that the twins experienced night paralysis as well as vivid dreams -Jack's wife, Mary, could not confirm any event at their home only what Jack had told her.  The idea that Mary holding a pendulum so that "Mary You" -her subconscious- could respond to questions is equivalent to having a Tarot reading to discover the truth. Fowler seems to stretch credulity at points and even writes that the Jack and Mary abduction was confirmed by her: it was not.

It seems that all four percipients had read either Budd Hopkins (Missing Time) and/or Whitley Streiber's book, Communion.  Therefore their memories would certainly be tainted by this.  And yet, despite this Ufological reading, the actual Allagash event is quite clear and each percipient confirms the others' account under hypnosis -apart from Rak who confirmed only the UFO sighting.  The Alien Entities involved are fairly unique in appearance -although after Hopkins and Jacobs non peer reviewed work and talks the "abduction phenomenon" is now full of reptoids, insectoids et al.

Fowler and the hypnotist cannot be praised for their techniques.  As a self confessed "alien abductee" or "experiencer" seems to be almost evangelistic in his beliefs and fitting in the details of other cases to match his.  This leads to unprofessional behaviour such as when, as an hypnotic session is about to be ended he "snapped a quick question at Jim (Weiner): when did you see these creatures again?" Weiner responded with Texas and the year 1980 -detailed later in the book and here is why this was so unprofessional: Weiner's subconscious would have immediately thought of the Texas incident as it was, without doubt and even Fowler suggests (not very firmly) that this might have been a flash-back.

When one looks at how one of the pioneers of UFO abduction percipients hypnosis, Dr R. Leo Sprinkle, worked as a professional and always taking care to ensure the well being of his subjects as well as his work, it seems Fowler and hypnotist Tony Constantino threw this out the window.  I may well be a little unkind there but things were done that I would not expect serious experienced -Constantino was a fairly inexperienced Ufologist- investigators to do.  It calls into question whether persons who are outspoken about being "experiencers" should really be involved in investigating alien abduction reports.  I tend to think not.

That Fowler presents his questioning at points almost as an interrogation -questions asked with added exclamation marks and often repeated until he gets an answer is not something to be proud of.  At times those involved seem to lose themselves: when asked to view images as though watching TV one says "I see those things!" and is then asked "Where?" and then he says "on it" he is asked "on what?" at this point I said out loud "On the bloody TV screen you told him to see all of this on!" At one point Foltz recounts a vivid dream that he found very upsetting and it was clearly a flash-back but because he rarely had vivid dream Constantino and Fowler stretch and push facts in leapsand bounds to make the dream a real event despite Foltz stating he believes it was just a rare, disturbing dream. The investigators then chalk this up as another abduction experience being witnessed.

It seems that Fowler and Constantino (David Webb a more experienced Ufologist was involved in the case but not at all the sessions) perceive every obvious dream or PTSD flash-back as genuine, real world experiences.

When it comes to Fowler's hypothesis that the twins were the focus of the Allagash event things fall to pieces.  At the very outset Fowler states how excited he is that twins were involved since that would be a Ufological -as Fowler puts it, after not paying much attention to Jim Weiner when he approached him at an event but on hearing twins were involved: "Suddenly I became very interested in what Jim was trying so hard to tell me"-  first and it seems that he loses interest in Foltz and Rak (this may indicate why Rak appears to be resentful as Fowler and Constantino appear -judging by Fowler's book- to have given up on trying to get to his memories of the event as he was awkward and resisted hypnosis).

Some of Jim Weiner's experiences could be down to his Temporlimbic epilepsy (TLE) -but as his doctors pointed out this could not account for the others memories of the Allagash incident.  However, having already read Budd Hopkins book before the hypnotic sessions, it could well have affected his memory -created false ones. Bringing in an alleged "ghost" ("Harry") does not help the case or point to childhood abductions of the twins as Fowler seems to insist. Also, it is clearly stated by Foltz that the entities involved appeared to be interested in the twins as they looked so alike. One might ask whether, if the twins were abducted from an early age, the entities had not noticed that they looked alike? This almost falls into Jacobs' realm where we appear to have attracted anything but the galaxy's brightest.  I believe that everything points to a one off event.

Rak's recall of a previous event -which he recalled but later recanted and may have been influenced by his reading of Hopkins/Streiber- can be negated and it is 100% not 'evidence' of any type and certainly not of life-long abductions. It should be pointed out he was not the only member of the four who felt Hopkins book might have influenced other memories.

Looking at the information presented it seems that the Allagash Four (or Three) had a one time experience. As the entities in the object involved seemingly had not really paid much attention to their presence on the lake it has to be asked whether Foltz, by signalling "SOS" with a flash-light actually drew the entities attention? We cannot know what alien entities might think, however, people in a canoe signalling them might be considered as "Hi. We want to meet you".  There are other UFO incidents in which objects have approached people signalling with flash-lights. This Allagash event might well have been a case of "You were curious and signalled them so you got not quite what you wanted"

We also come across the "scoop marks" so much cherished and highlighted in these cases. "Unexplained lumps" appearing on shins -possible ganglions or proof of alien abduction?  I have a lump on my right shin.  My father and brother as well as one sister had the same.  My mother and father sighted a UFO in Germany before I was born.  Am I a UFO abductee?  No. Objects get stuck in skin or you get cuts and they leave scars but you do not notice.  One evening I was washing what's left of my hair and felt a bump to the back of my head.  Then another -and dried blood. It took me a long while to remember that a tree branch had scraped past my head the day before but I had no idea it had cut my skin. A doctor once found a mysterious 1 mm greyish object under my left forearm skin and cut it out: it was a piece of pencil lead from where another pupil had stabbed me with a pencil in 1972 -completely forgot about it.

Ganglions. According to Tibial periosteal ganglion cyst: The ganglion in disguise a paper by Anjuna Reghunath, Mahesh K Mittal, Geetika Khanna and V Anil in The Indian Journal of Radiology Imaging. 2017 Jan-Mar; 27(1): 105–109:

"Soft tissue ganglions are commonly encountered cystic lesions around the wrist presumed to arise from myxomatous degeneration of periarticular connective tissue. Lesions with similar pathology in subchondral location close to joints, and often simulating a geode, is the less common entity called intraosseous ganglion. Rarer still is a lesion produced by mucoid degeneration and cyst formation of the periostium of long bones, rightly called the periosteal ganglion. They are mostly found in the lower extremities at the region of pes anserinus, typically limited to the periosteum and outer cortex without any intramedullary component. We report the case of a 62 year-old male who presented with a tender swelling on the mid shaft of the left tibia, which radiologically suggested a juxtacortical lesion extending to the soft tissue or a soft tissue neoplasm eroding the bony cortex of tibia. It was later diagnosed definitively as a periosteal ganglion in an atypical location, on further radiologic work-up and histopathological correlation."

Rather like the scam of running an EMF (Electro Magnetic Frequency) meter over a removed 'alien implant' (most EMF meters will begin 'reacting' if squeezed slightly so the person holding it is seen to not be touching anything to get the reaction) the idea that every bump and scrape is evidence of aliens "biopsy punches" from childhood on can be ruled out.

What I find odd is fig. 3 on p. 30 of Fowler's book in which a balding, white haired man is sat down in front of the quartet.  The note reads "...seated man came out of the woods, stayed for a while, left, and never gave his name". That is the only mention of this in the book.  I am guessing the famous photo was taken by camera on auto since there were only four present. The photo with the extra man is an odd one. Every single detail -position of items held, angle of arms and hands, details in the background all match. So why is this photo with the mystery man not on the internet and I have looked and why is the photo so significant when it is used nowhere but the book?

Only those involved can say 100% what happened at Allagash and all but one (who has changed his story slightly but actually falls short of saying it was a hoax) stick by that story and as for it being a hoax to get money -the four had not even seen a copy of the book before they appeared on the Joan Rivers Show.  They were pretty lax about "cashing in" on a UFO sighting.

Sadly, it was Fowler's book that prevented me from including this case in UFO Contact

Eupora, Mississippi

Eupora, Mississippi    17th October, 1973

   Unbelievably, US investigators simply did not bother -even when their top man on CE3Ks, Ted Bloecher stated that it was a case that needed investigating-  they said because "it was probably a hoax".  Well, yes, like the Moon landings.  Utter lazy and totally unscientific attitudes that still persist.  "Why bother looking into it. Probably a hoax". 

   A multiple witness landing of an object and sighting of an AE on a US Highway -with an unidentified car driver coming from the opposite direction stopping, turning and speeding away on seeing it. 

   Now why on earth would that be a priority case?

   What is  -or was-  seen as the best recorded and most significant UFO wave of sightings world-wide is, to many, just unknown. J. Bernard Delair of the old Contact UK produced a very detailed edition of The UFO Register summarizing what was known.  This was based on reports from newspaper as well as UFO periodicals

   Let us suppose that you read that issue of The UFO Register in 1974, or later, and from all the cases cited there are a few lines detailing an alleged UFO landing and entity being seen, but an entity the description of which is unique. We were always told look for rare, seemingly genuine events where non-humanoid entities were reported. This was such a case.

For the past four decades this is the account cut up, re-edited and added to :

   “Night time (no exact hour).  Two UFOs were observed near the above
   location (Eupora), by several witnesses in a car.  One object hovered in the
   sky overhead while the other landed on the highway just over 100 yards
   (103 m) from the car ; the car lights and engine now died.

   “An AE now appeared from the landed object.  This AE had to hold on to
   a handrail.  It had a wide mouth, flipper like feet and what appeared to be
   webbing between the legs.  Even more strange were the feather-like structures
   on its back which gave the impression of opening and closing when the AE
   moved.

   “The AE now re-entered (?) the object which took off ; the car’s electrics
   then began to function again.”

   My note in the file reads: “This case really must be gone into in more detail.  Did investigators talk to the witnesses? Is there missing time?”

    Between 1974-1980,  I wrote to the people who were supposed to have looked into this case.  No responses. Any and every new book or article (very rare) dealing with that period or AE / CE3K cases is checked. Same lines. No new details. I have scoured thousands of these reports that I have on file and checked many other sources. Nothing similar so the "craft" description and entity description.  They are totally unique.   But case details were far too vague.

   In 2015 I finally got in contact with the Centre for UFO Studies (CUFOS) and Dr. Mark Rodeghier told me that, yes, they had the case on file and even provided me with the file.  I would like to thank Dr. Rodeghier for this.

   No investigation had ever taken place. Why? Even Ted Bloecher  states in the file that the case was deserving of investigation. The reason nothing was done?  No one could be bother -"It might turn out to be a hoax" based on the fact that the description and notes made by someone at a radio station at the time just didn't "do it" for someone.

   I checked everywhere I could, even on the internet, once I got the percipient's name. No claims of a hoax or a joke –no one had exposed the case as such at the time nor since. Nothing. Just constant cut and paste of the same lines describing the incident.   However, the whole point of investigation is to disprove or prove a case. A joke? Fair enough. At least investigators learn something more. But if seemingly genuine?  I leave that up to you.

   Ted Bloecher made a transcript of the interview by Jack King of the radio station  --King was the only person who talked to Patterson and he believed him.  I am going to quote the entire transcript as to cut and edit will not give the reader that feel of how genuine it all came across. We really ought to thank Jack King of WROB.

Patterson is not, obviously, well educated and he is grasping at words to try to explain what he has seen, something he has never encountered before and the only thing he can do is use examples of things he knows so the UFO is a “capsule” because he has seen on TV that the capsule is where astronauts make their journey.  He is, obviously, still quite shaken up by what he has seen.  He even tries to explain this to King – “I’m talking crazy to you, but I can’t talk no better”  It is very ungracious to write in a transcript others will see “God help us –TB.” Not everyone gets a good middle class education.

   Again, Patterson says “No –I take that back” a number of times which is an indicator of someone trying, as best they can, to draw on something they know to try to explain something they are totally unfamiliar with.  The flying squirrel example to explain the AE had a membrane between its legs is a good example.

   And what he saw was not “an alien” or “space man” it was “this man –or whatever it is” and the whole account is so devoid of Ufological terminology that it really stands out.  We see that Patterson and his friends even went to the Eupora police to report the incident but were not treated seriously.

   A number of witnesses are named by Patterson and there was, at the time, the possibility that an appeal might have had the driver who did the U-turn and drove off when he saw the UFOB get in touch.  What of witnesses around the Highway?

   No investigators bothered to do their job.  CUFOS put me in touch with a veteran investigator who told me that, based on his “vast experience”, it was a hoax.  Why?  Because, based on his “vast experience”, it was a hoax.  He had, he told me, some great cases from 1973 that he had forwarded to MUFON.  The man seemed to not even be interested in seeing if Patterson did live in Eupora or still lived there or what could be found out –there are odds in favour of more than one of the witnesses name still being alive.  I have a suspicion why the report was ignored.

   On 14th  June, 1975, Ted Bloecher, then the US leading expert on CE3Ks, wrote to WROB, no doubt sensing things were going wrong.  He notes in the letter to Jack King that he had written to but not heard from the investigator and that the Patterson incident was one of possibly eight (8) CE3Ks on the night of 17th  October, 1973.  Bloecher  seriously felt this case needed investigation.

   Then, on the 7th  July, 1975, the local investigator wrote that   "I agree that the Early Patterson case should be followed up. I will make plans to visit that area sometime in the near future and talk to Patterson, plus any of the witnesses I can locate.  I will tape the conversations and forward a copy to you. If you have any specific questions I will be glad to include them."

   When Bloecher retired  from Ufology all of his files were donated to CUFOS and these show nothing further from either investigator involved. Had it not been for the radio station we would not know of the case.  Bloecher tried to get things rolling but those in place obviously had their prejudices which seems evident. 

   With Eupora the blame for the mess lies firmly with the Ufologists.  That there was a lot of “UFO” activity that day is clear.

17th October

c. 14:00 hrs  Watauga, Tennessee
   A copper hued circular object hovered just above ground level while a 6 ft tall entity reached out of a doorway and tried to grab 2 children nearby. AE had claw-like hands and eyes that blinked. (8) Also note on 15th John Lane claimed that a blue coloured object landed by a road at Gulfport, Miss., and that a crab clawed entity tapped on one of his car windows. Could this be what Patterson referred to? (9)

20:00 hrs  near Powhatan, Louisiana, 10 observers watched 3   multicoloured lights at a very low altitude.

20:48 hrs unusually shaped object observed over Fisher, Waldenburg and Weiner communities of Arkansas

21:57 hrs  Jackson District, Miss.: 11 observers watch an object with 6~8 lights.

23:00 hrs  nr Athens, Georgia.  Paul Brown had to swerve his car and make an emergency stop as a cone shaped object landed on the road ahead of him. From beneath the object emerged two 4 feet tall AEs with reddish faces and white hair.  The AEs re-entered the object which took off with a whoosh ~possibly due to the fact that Brown fired several shots at it with no apparent effect.

   The story is, obviously, somewhat more detailed.  Brief details were given in the NICAP Investigator and the Flying Saucer Review  (10 & 11) and the main news source appears to have been the Christian Science Monitor (12 & 13).

   Paul Brown, a preacher and car dealer was headed home near Danielsville on U.S. 29 listening to the World Series when suddenly his radio stopped working:

   “Everything lit up, I could see the road and the fields lighted up all around me. My first impression was that it was a small airplane trying to land.”

   However, this “plane”  began to pace his car before quickly landing on the road in front of Brown.  He was forced to stop. He could see that the object was 6 feet high and 15 feet in diameter. At that point a bright light was cast upon him, the round beam blinding him.

   “I realized if I don’t stop I’m going to hit it. So I came to a screeching halt.   “I don’t know why I did it, but I opened the car door and managed, frightened as I was, to get one foot on the ground.”

   Two beings now appeared:

    “Where they came from I don’t know. I couldn’t see a flap, a drop door, or anything. When I finally got my vision clear I could see a clearance underneath, so it was not belly-landed; it had some kind of landing gear. And they came out, and they had on the most beautiful outfits I’ve ever seen-silver, blousy, come down to where your wrists are, then they had what appeared to be white gloves. Very tight around the neck, like something a priest would wear. Down to the feet, like a jumpsuit. It looked like if you pulled a gun and shot it, it would glance off, yet it moved. They could move, yet it looked like it was heavy, because of the way they walked, very slow. I estimated them to be four to five feet tall.

   “They just started walking down the road toward me, very slow. I could see a face, you know, place where eyes would be, ears. The faces were reddish. Hair was almost like cotton, no discoloration, which leads me to believe maybe it was a mask of some kind. I never got close enough to really say-closest I ever got was 150, 200 feet away, which is not too far away when you’re there by yourself.”

   Brown, carried a pistol for protection and when he produced the weapon:

     “They turn around, walk very slow back behind the shadow to the bright light. All of a sudden they disappear behind the light, and I try to see where they go, if they go in a hatch or what, but I couldn’t”

   The entities re-entered the object and the lights were extinguished then, according to Brown:

   “Took off at an angle and made a sound I would describe as like a million fans,  or like golf balls coming by my ear.  Almost stood my hair on end.”

   Brown then immediately drove to a police station and reported the incident. By  daylight deputies had found Brown’s tyre skid marks and noted that roadside grass was “fan swept.”

   According to Mark Rodeghier: “I expect that the case was never investigated properly, like so many in this intense (1973) wave”. 

   17th/18th  00:00 hrs  nr. Loxley, Alabama.  Clarence Patterson (no relation to Early Patterson) claimed that he and his pickup truck were sucked up into a huge, cigar shaped UFOB  and that he was pulled from the vehicle by 6  robot-like entities that seemed to read his mind. Next thing he recalled was being back on the highway with his vehicle going at 90 mph. Incident may have lasted up to 30 minutes (14-17).

   Again, we have an alleged abduction and decades later we know no more about it. Just how ridiculous does this all appear to Science?

   17th (unspecified time)  Nr Hartwell, Georgia.  A UFOB allegedly landed and a white haired entity was seen for a short time.

   17th  (unspecified)  Elgin AFB, Florida. A UFO was recorded on radar equipment by fully trained personnel.

   17th  (unspec. Time) Alton Park, Tennessee. A UFOB was sighted and said to have landed.

   17th  (unspec. time) Crowley, near Lake Charles, Louisiana. 2 witnesses observe an oblong, luminous object.  Local power cut at the same time.

   These are just a few reports in a small geographic portion of the US that seem to show that there was some unusual activity taking place on the 17th/18th and in some cases details match regarding entities – crab-like pincers or white haired AEs.  If one looks at Contact UKs  The UFO Register then it is quite clear that in the United States alone there was a great deal of activity deemed "UFOs" –details in some cases are vague and the power-cut at Crowley could be down to any number of causes.

   But even if 95%  of the cases on record can be listed as misinterpretation, hoax or whatever, then we have a percentage that cannot be so easily dismissed.

   The UFOB and AE incidents are clear –as Bloecher noted to WROB, there were at least 8 alleged CE3Ks that night –  but how detailed were the investigations?  In the cases of Early Patterson, Paul Brown and Clarence Patterson and other witnesses in CE3K events there were no investigations.  A multi-witness report of a UFOB landing on a US Highway in which an AE was seen but ignored by Ufologists is incredible. 


Note: "UFOB" refers to what appears to be a solid, constructed craft rather than "something" in general -a UFO.

CE3K is a Close Encounter of the Third Kind -the sighting of a UFOB and alleged entities associated with it.

The Allagash Abduction (Part 1)

Case Cracked: The Allagash Abduction

The Allagash Abductions - An OpenMinds.tv Documentary

Life on Mars?

Semi literacy is strong on the internet news services.  The acronym NASA is written as Nasa and we get the usual garbled reporting but what we have here is what is being reported all over the internet -including claims that Martian life may be hiding underground. 

The comments from quasi conspiracy theorists that this is all about NASA's hidden evidence of intelligent extraterrestrials hiding from view in one or more complex beneath Mars shopws any real understanding of what is being clearly stated.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/found-evidence-life-mars-1970s-200700397.html

We found evidence of life on Mars in the 1970s, former Nasa scientist says

Andrew Griffin

The Independent14 October 2019

File photo taken on Mars approximately in September 1976 at Utopia Planitia by the US. Viking 2 unmanned spacecraft

Nasa found evidence of alien life in the 1970s, according to a former senior scientist – and ignored it.

The Viking landers were sent to the Martian surface more than 40 years ago, with the aim of exploring the planet. They included an experiment known as Labeled Release, or LR, which was intended to look for signs of life on the planet.

The results came back in 1976 – and seemed to indicate that something was happening on the surface. Gilbert V Levin – an engineer and inventor who was the principal investigator on the experiment – has now written a long article arguing that those findings were indications of life on Mars, which were ignored by Nasa.

"On July 30, 1976, the LR returned its initial results from Mars," Levin wrote in an article for Scientific American. "Amazingly, they were positive.

"As the experiment progressed, a total of four positive results, supported by five varied controls, streamed down from the twin Viking spacecraft landed some 4,000 miles apart. The data curves signaled the detection of microbial respiration on the Red Planet. The curves from Mars were similar to those produced by LR tests of soils on Earth.

"It seemed we had answered that ultimate question."

But Nasa's experiments failed to find organic matter: the physical stuff of life itself, not just the indications of microbial respiration that the LR experiment discovered. That meant that Nasa concluded that the LR results came from a substance that was mimicking life but was not actually life itself.

Since then, Nasa has not a run a similar experiment has focused on examining whether the Martian habitat could be a suitable home for alien life.

But Levin argues that those findings actually suggested that there is alien life on Mars. And, he argued, Nasa must do more to follow them up – because they could pose a significant threat to life on Earth.

"NASA maintains the search for alien life among its highest priorities," he wrote. On February 13, 2019, NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine said we might find microbial life on Mars.

"Our nation has now committed to sending astronauts to Mars. Any life there might threaten them, and us upon their return. Thus, the issue of life on Mars is now front and center."

Summing up the evidence of alien life, he wrote his experiment had found a whole host of positive results. But perhaps most strongly of all, he said there had been no experiment that had provided an alternative explanation for the results that came back from the LV experiment.

"What is the evidence against the possibility of life on Mars? The astonishing fact is that there is none," he wrote. "Furthermore, laboratory studies have shown that some terrestrial microorganisms could survive and grow on Mars."

In his conclusion, he asked that Nasa conduct the same kind of experiments again, taking an altered version of the LR experiment to Mars on the next possible trip. And he asked that scientists be convened to examine those more than 40-year-old findings to see if they really were proof of life on Mars.

"Such an objective jury might conclude, as I did, that the Viking LR did find life," he wrote. "In any event, the study would likely produce important guidance for NASA’s pursuit of its holy grail."

               ---end---

When you read the Scientific American article you will note that the title reads: "I’m Convinced We Found Evidence of Life on Mars in the 1970s" and Levin is stating that this is what the tests showed but he is calling on a scientific panel to look at the evidence to make a judgement -either way.

 https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/im-convinced-we-found-evidence-of-life-on-mars-in-the-1970s/ 

We are not talking about alien bases. We are not talking about anything other than microbial life so far. That is the important thing to remember as the ufology hysteria creates more inane statements and theories.  

Always check the actual original source(s) and do not base your belief on what you read from an idiot online journalist.

It's blurry...been "enhanced" but science will accept the image as being evidence...we aint talking UFOs

Well, I notice that standards are being maintained.  Not a single comment on any of the posts despite some of them attracting thousands of views -and it goes without saying that some of those people are taking items (including my original comments) and posting them as their own.

I get fed up posting free content (I have books you can buy to support the ongoing work) but I'm sat here waiting for the grim reaper so have some time to waste.

A proto black hole in our solar system could be what people have mistaken for Planet 9 (before Pluto's demotion, Planet X). You check the comments on 'news' sites like Yahoo! and you see some of the biggest pile of garbage and lobotomised hysteria it is possible to find in one place.  On this blog, intended to foster discussion or questions....nothing.

As it stands I do not think that the proto black hole theory is anything but that. Astronomy calls for lots -an incredible amount at times- theorising on things that "might be" if another theory is correct. Over 4000 exo planets have been discussed and we have all the nice "artists impressions" of these that astronomers and scientists use in lectures.  Most will say "This is Exo planet AABB.  Now we have never seen what it looks like.  This is just an artist impression."  In which case you really should not be using imaginary paintings but the actual image (IF you have one) of AABB -which as best is a tiny dot.

Astronomers and scientists used that famous "artists impression/concept" of what Oumuamua looked like.  And then they screech at the public and news services "That is NOT what it looked like!" and give us another artist impression of "what Oumuamua might look like".  Because no one ever saw it.

"Ifs"/"Buts"/"Might"/"If the theory is correct then it might explain" are every day astronomical scientific words.

this is a typical image released with the discovery of an exo planet.

Here are actual photographs/images of exo planets

The exoplanet HIP 65426b has recently been discovered using the SPHERE (Spectro-Polarimetric High-contrast Exoplanet REsearch instrument)

There is some controversy over whether the planet seen in this image exists. Read here for more.]

How do we know these are exo planets?  We have to take the word of scientists that their calculations are correct and truthful....oh and "We peer review" which in itself can lead to nasty arguments and people being outraged that their pet theories are being shoved to one side.

On the 10th April, 2019, NASA released the first image of a black hole.  Apparently a lot of reporters were underwhelmed!

In a historic feat by @EHTelescope & @NSF, a black hole image has been captured for the 1st time. Several of our missions observed the same black hole using different light wavelengths and collected data to understand the black hole's environment. Details: https://go.nasa.gov/2Uwj1PF

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Hmm. Here is the problem: grainy images of objects millions of light years away accompanied by unproven theories -we will never visit these planets- are taken as fact.  However many "observers" may be involved where is the proof?  It's an image.  Often an enhanced or "touched up"/altered image and we have to take astronomers' word of what is shown?  Yet they will argue on points and even challenge each other but it comes down to this: you HAVE to accept their word.

Think of the astronomers in the past humiliated, laughed at and who had -at best- careers ruined because they proposed that the Moon and Mars might have some type of water or ice -that it might not be simply confined to Earth. Those who had the same treatment over claims about Mars. Or how about those who observed and wrote for decades on there being a large planet beyond Pluto...look how many minor planets we have found so far.  Don't forget that 20 new moons were only recently discovered in the solar system.

Now look at it this way (let's be Devil's Advocate): a couple driving along a lonely road observe a strange light moving around the night sky.  The said object lands just ahead of them.  It ;later transpires, though they do not want to believe this themselves, that they were taken aboard what we would call a UFOB -a constructed non terrestrial craft. At the same time a local air force base detects a UFO on its radar and there are interceptors sent to check.  Miles from the couple (who are unseen due to distance) witnesses in a car see a UFO that eventually takes off.  They may or may not see or hear the interceptors.  The air force is contacted after the couple report the UFO to investigators and it is found that an "unknown" was tracked.  Checking reports made on that day the people who saw the object from a distance are found to have reported it.  Everything matches./

For astronomers and scientists that is not evidence. Only blurry, enhanced images from light years away count.

Why?

There are possibilities.

1. Scientists and astronomers will think they will be called failures because aliens are visiting Earth occasionally and they didn't know or

2. The possibility of real live aliens coming to Earth actually terrifies these people for various reasons.  If you are an ass-head like Dr Brian ("I'm a celebrity") Cox then you believe that all intelligent life in what even he graciously concedes is a vast universe, is dead.  We (humans) are it.

3  Astronomers and scientist will quote "the vast distances involved in space travel" which they then authoratively claim "Would make it impossible for aliens to visit the Earth"  Well, this is what we used to call "utter nonsense" or "talking out of your ass".

Firstly, these people have never contacted an advanced alien civilisation  let alone studied the type of space craft or technology they used.  Judging everything by human technological standards is so pointless.  Just as they may very well not use radio signals they may be centuries ahead of us in technology -had humans not killed off scientists with "outlandish theories" and warred with each other for centuries think where we might be today -technology is developing and increasing and I remember what it was like in the 1960s when you  were either well enough for a private landline telephone or had to visit the local phone box -and join the queue!  Today you can call anywhere in the work from your sofa.  Not to mention tweets and instagram or Face Book and even cook a meal in minutes instead of 30 minutes to an hour after preparation.

It takes one Elon Musk to have a team that decides "A" simply does not work and shrug and decide to try "D" instead and...a new way to travel in sp[ace is developed and from there others will jump in and add to the development.

When I was a young we were promised homes on the Moon by the 21st century.  Greed, war and corruption led to all of that stopping but what if the Apollo missions had continued?  I never even imagined that one man who lead a team that put a red sports car with astronaut dummy into space.

Distances and propulsion methods are things that we can guess at what might be developed but there is no human being on this planet who has any idea of what type of propulsion system or travel method any alien life might use.

The distance response is silly talk at best. and the other response of "We would detect them in our solar system" is shot down in flaming dust -our Near Earth Object detection system missed four large asteroid close passes....we more or less accidentally detected Oumuamua and we've found 20 new moons (they did not "just appear there") and there may be more, we have found minor planets beyond Pluto and there could be more including the giant (possibly) Planet 9.  When asked why they have not detected all of these before the answer is always the same -the size of the solar system, orbits and so on. So even a battle ship sized interstellar craft could 'sneak through'

4. There is the arrogance that, as in science fiction movies, scientists would be the first to be contacted but why any advanced civilisation should want to contact backward scientists is open to conjecture. Aliens would be detected or contact us via signals yet when there are unusual signals they are immediately described as (just check online when it comes to SETI) "Anything but aliens".  True space is very noisy.  The AOP Bureau's Franklyn A. Davin-Wilson dealt not only with Near Earth Objects but also "Signals from space".  "The music of the spheres" as an expression should have added to it "The music of the spheres, nebula, quasars and intergalactic space".  Scientists and astronomers could simply state: "Everything must be ruled out before jumping to the conclusion of alien signals" but they do not.  "It's never ever aliens" is the line you hear over and over again: it ios totally unscientific to rule something out completely because you do not want it to be.

Fear and unscientific.

This is shown in even recent responses to questions about alien life and UFOs where "Little Green Men" is used in the subject response title.  That displays a very retarded attitude since "LGM" was the favoured phrase to ridicule reports in the 1950's and 1960's -every time you see it used you know that you are not dealing with a scientist who can be trusted to undo his own zipper when he goes to the lavatory let alone discuss UFO reports. It also shows that dogma is at play: Scientist A's professor was ridiculed when he mentioned flying saucer reports and so he ridiculed anyone who mentioned UFOs. It is a closed mind and bullying combined and astronomers and scientists are such sensitive little things that they cannot think for themselves and, worst of all, they might be made into a joke or lose out on those free junkets.  Better to say nothing and just look like a moron.

I did write that I was playing Devil's Advocate and I do know that there are scientists and astronomers with an interest in UFOs -which all scientists should have but tend to shy away from speaking or discussing the topic.

Could you imagine an Elon Musk financed UFO study and investigation group rather than one by that fella hands out dozens of anti disclosure contracts and tells no one anything  (you know who I mean)? We are staring out thousands of light years into deep space and paying our own solar system not as much attention as it needs

Two interesting articles:
Life found on Mars in the 1970's
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1189746/Alien-news-NASA-space-Mars-mission-1970s-scientists-Viking-lander-1-Gilbert-Levin

Looking for sub-surface life on mars
https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1189948/NASA-news-Alien-ufo-Mars-update-latest-mission-space-extra-terrestrial

There is an argument that says we ought to spend far more investigating our own solar system and sending out signalling probes that move around it.  I agree.

But while astronomers and scientists accept grainy/blurry images from deep space and roll the D&D dice to decide which exo planet might or might not have life (and we'll never know either way) but refuse to seriously look at UFOB or alleged CE3K (Close Encounters of the Third Kind) cases they are not really looking for extraterrestrial life.