June 1980 Torver, Cumbria

John Hanson  Haunted Skies vol. 8  p. 103

 

Mary Sinton, owner of a B&B Farm, told Hanson about an encounter while on a camping holiday:

“I was with my boyfriend, Paul, at the time, and returning back to the campsite in our Hillman Imp car, along the A593, Ambleside to Coniston Road (Grid ref: Long 323, Lat 999/8, No. 7 English Lakes, SE area)  As we turned a bend in the road, close to the campsite, I was astonished to see  nine tall ‘figures’. Stood in a group of trees near the side of the road, caught in the glare of the spotlights fitted to the Hillman Imp I was travelling in.

 

“I estimated they were at least 7ft tall and identically dressed, wearing silver-white coloured helmets and body armour, carrying what looked like a rod, carried vertically in front of each of them –reminding me of a regiment of soldiers, stood to attention on the parade ground.

“As we drove past, I left it for a few seconds and then shouted out, in great excitement, ‘Did you see them, Paul?’  One look at his face confirmed he had, although, oddly, he had only seen one ‘figure’.  When we arrived at the campsite, we felt very nervous and had trouble sleeping, wondering if anything else was going to happen.

 

Sketch of  the figure made by the witness

“The next morning, we discussed what had happened and wondered whether we should let the police know but, on reflection, thought they would never believe us”.

Hanson spoke to Paul who confirmed the events given by Sinton. He told Hanson:

“It was the most unusual thing I have ever seen in my life.  It defies explanation”.

13 March 1980 to May 1973 Judy Doraty

  This case should be studied along with that of Myrna Hanson 5^th May near Houston, Texas (USA)

Judy Doraty had been driving home in a suburb from a bingo game with her daughter Cyndy Tindle, mother, sister, and brother-in-law. Suddenly, everyone in the car noticed a bright light in the sky that was pacing them. Eventually, they stopped the car by the side of the road in farmland and Judy got out of the car. When they reached another relative’s home, the time was 1-hour later than expected and the light moved in closer and the passengers and a group who came running out of the Doraty house saw a huge disc with rows of windows float silently over the house and an adjacent field. It soon shot off straight up into the sky, going from “very, very big to very, very little in a matter of seconds.”

 Above: Doraty under hypnotic regression

Afterwards, Doraty had been having vivid nightmares and unrelenting stress since the experience, something that no one else in her family seemed to be suffering. Finally, she sought medical help in 1978. That led to hypnosis with a medical doctor. In the first session, she described how a little animal was coming up in a yellow shining beam. Judy and the doctor contacted several ufo investigators and shared the hypnosis tape with APRO. They shared it with Linda M. Howe because of the cattle involved and she called Judy. At the time, she did not recall anything else besides a strange face. It took two months to convince her for the four hour hypnosis session with Dr. Spirnkle in 1980, before a TV camera.

Under hypnosis with Sprinkle, she recalled:

(There’s) like a spotlight shining down on the back of my car. And it’s like it had substance to it. I can see an animal being taken up in this. I can see it’s squirming and trying to get free. And it’s like it’s being sucked up. I can’t tell what the animal is. It’s a small animal.

Doraty remembered that she was not taken on the craft she observed, but said that when she was outside, she experienced some sort of bilocation and was present on the craft and standing by the car at the same time. The “small animal” turned out to be a very young brown and white calf, which was dissected aboard the craft by two “little men” with quick precision in a central room (of three) with a line of basins, scooped out areas for each kind of tissue. They excised tissue from the calf’s eyeball, tongue and testicles and then lowered the carcass back down in a beam of light onto the pasture, dead and mutilated.

At first, she only described strange procedures with tubes extracting tissues but mentioned no beings. Finally, she described two entities with long, claw nails and large heads. Their eyes were very large and piercing, without eyelids. No nose or mouth. They were just 90 cm tall, with very thin, pasty skin and dressed in grey, seamless overalls. 

Dr R Leo Sprinkle

They usually ignored her mental questions but also told her that they were “stationed here” and had been testing our soil, water, vegetation and animal life for quite some time. They also mentioned our nuclear testing in space and underwater. They take samples of the reproductive system from many animals to track the effects of our poisonous contamination. They even mention religion: “He is the same to them as He is to us.”

Finally, when Judy was describing under hypnosis the car trip back home, she mentioned that her daughter Cindy was not there in the car with them! Meticulous probing concluded that she also saw her aboard the ufo on a table surrounded by more strange alien beings who were putting instruments into her mouth. Judy was so upset at the sight that she came completely out of her trance to yell: “No, I don’t want to!” Under hypnosis again, she recalled that the aliens told her everything’s going to be all right but she did not believe them and somehow they mentally blocked Judy from seeing her daughter subjected to more probing (at least, that was Sprinkle’s interpretation her impossibility to describe more). Cindy apparently was NOT in the car when they arrived to their relatives’ home but appeared later.

 

An edited and abridged 10 minutes of this session appeared in Linda Howe’s documentary A Strange Harvest which won a 1980 Emmy Award.

Howe asked Judy to contact Cindy, then 23 and married, for an hypnosis session. Both mother and daughter resisted the suggestion… for a time.

Ten years later, Judy called Howe and said that her daughter, now 32 and divorced with three children, had moved back to Missouri with Judy was living and finally wanted to learn more. Judy claimed she had never shared her experience with Cindy. On 6 August 1990, John Carpenter regressed Cindy Tindle (once again under a TV camera for Howe’s documentary Earth Mysteries: Aliens Life Forms).and got a quite different story:

 

Cindy was taken out of the car by an alien that she confused with her mother. Cindy described him as 160 cm tall and “buggy” with a short, brown hair, wig and “snake eyes” She did witness the scene of the calf lifted in the beam and the two “little men” that she describes more robot-like, but then she found herself surrounded by blackness and the next scenes was inside the ufo. She was sitting on a table and two very skinny beings were around her. One pushed her down and strapped her unemotionally. He held her face still, apparently amazed at her teeth because she had braces. Something metallic was put on her forehead and she felt relaxed. They began poking her belly button, abdomen and arms and put something down her throat. They never communicate with her, but exchanged cliking sounds among them. During a second session a few days later, Cindy described a laboratory-like room filled with bottles and animal parts, including birds and one three-digit alien scrapping and slicing them.

 

Judy Doraty dated sketch shows alien with wide-set eyes having a vertical pupil and iris.  (UFO 4:3, p. 21)

 

                            

 

 

Source: Wolf, “The Abduction of Doraty – The Perfect Case”. Archives Luis R. González.

 

Leo Sprinkle, case #47, “UFO Contactees: Captive collaborators or cosmic citizens”, APRO Bulletin 29:5.

 

FSR 47:2 p. 13 (with witness’s photo)

 

Linda M. Howe, An Alien Harvest (1989), pp. 300-339.

 

Linda M. Howe, Glimpses of Other Realities 1 (1994), pp. 199-226 & 257-8 & 308-319.

 

Greg Bishop, Project Beta (2005), pp. 19-20

Abducted: Confrontations With Beings From Outer Space - Astonishing Accounts of Humans Captured By UFOs

This book is available on Amazon and I wrote a quick product review:
 

I grew up reading the Lorenzens work on CE3K and abductions as they were, after Ted Bloecher, the only serious researchers studying this aspect of the subject. Their books are always highly readable but this reprint is...not up to the original. I recall the original printing had photographs in it and some illustrations. This copy does not. Production wise these are scanned pages fitted onto a page and so the quality varies from sharply defined text to faded and when I heard a crack I realised that the book had no proper guttering allowing the reader to open it up fully to read each page. In this day and age a good guttering should be simple enough and you should be able to read each page without damaging the book spine.

As for the subject matter it is presented well and that is to be expected since Coral Lorenzen was in total control of not just APRO but, I understand, the books themselves. In the past I have been critical of the methods the couple used -particularly of the "truth drug" (really). But as someone else has noted, the Lorenzens and APRO were independent researchers (unlike the CIA infiltrated NICAP which would not look at these reports) and for that reason the book is one that is invaluable because it is not tainted with the fakery and "stacking the decks" nor the scandal surrounding Hopkins, Jacobs and Carpenter. This is old school CE3K research and as it is hard to find an original copy it is invaluable for researchers despite the production. It will sit alongside Flying Saucer Occupants on my research shelf!

                                                          ______________________________

Unfortunately the UK is not the place to be if you are attempting to buy UFO books now and sellers on Ebay and Amazon UK know this and ask for ridiculously inflated prices. This book, however, in the original printing, cannot be found so despite the problems noted with the scanned reprint version is the book worth it?

Yes.

The Lorenzens note the (at the time) new discoveries of memory loss as with the Hills and this is looked at in some details. The Patty Price case is very interesting and I have to say that, despite it being written about in the late 1970s, it is quite obscure but the details are fascinating.

The Higdon case is dealt with in detail alongside those of Charles Moody, Travis Walton, he Liberty, Kty case (here under the title "The Casey County Abduction")Sandra Larson (The North Dakota Abduction) and that of David Stephenson and his friend (The Maine Abduction) and other cases are mentioned in passing as the Lorenzens search for comparisons. I have to say that the entities reported by Stephenson do not bear and resemblance to the ones in the Walton and Moody cases (which do match).

The Lorenzens also note the very common "floating not walking" factor in these abductions which is possible but I still have very grave doubts about moving through solid objects such as walls.

There is a transcript of the pre-polygraph interview with Walton and Dr R. Leo Sprinkle looks at hypnotic time regression procedures use in such cases.

Here is where I disagree with the Lorenzens; in their conclusion they state that they believe hypnosis will be invaluable in such cases and has exciting possibilities for the future. Sadly, those who continued on after the Lorenzens (we know who they are so let's not name them again) abused hypnosis techniques and created a false narrative that derailed mainstream research on the subject for 30 years. Ignoring the abuse of hypnosis I believe there are other problems.

Hypnosis should not be used to start digging into a percipients memory and despite what some outside the UK may think, the British UFO Research Association (BUFORA) became a spent force more than a decade ago.; There is the idea that "BUFORA says no use of hypnosis" and every claimed Ufologist in the country has stopped using it. They have not and there are some I have grave doubts about.

The use of hypnosis should be use when the supressed memory or time lapse is causing serious psychological or physiological problems for the percipient. Even then the technique should be used to first -above all else- alleviate the mental or physical problems. That in itself may well help the percipient recall things.  

If you are unfamiliar with the cases dealt with or gain most of your knowledge on, say, the Walton case via You Tube then get this book. It may well surprise you.

Josef Allen Hynek

 

"Would yield more information about the UFO Problem"

 

As I have noted before -and on the CE3K/AE Face Book page- Ted Bloecher led the field from the 1950s when it came to "Humanoid" (or not humanoid) reports.  When the 1960s found more such reports emerging there were two civilian UFO organisations, well, one when you think about it: APRO run by James and (mainly) Coral Lorenzen and NICAP headed by Donald E. Keyhoe (infiltrated and eventually destroyed from within by the CIA...sound familiar to recent UAP stuff?).

NICAP dismissed such reports though some of its members did look into them. APRO looked into the various accounts and not just from the United States but from around the world. In 1974 I explained that it was well and good recording lights in the sky (LITS) and fly overs but if we knew who or what was controlling these craft (when any other explanation was rule out) we might get a better idea of what was going on.

In a couple of years I will have been studying CE3K/AE reports for 50 years which is frightening to think of the years I've spent on this. All unfunded, although I have tried and failed.

I just received a reprint (not the best but trying to get an original copy in the UK is impossible) of the Lorenzens' 1977 book Abducted! Confrontations With Beings From Outer Space. It has certain quality issues but it shows how far ahead they were of those who later destroyed the research (Hopkins, Jacobs, Carpenter and others). There are no photographs or illustrations, I was sure that there was in the original but that copy was stolen back in 1979!

Anyway, I found a paragraph in the Foreword by the couple of interest:

    "In 1967 we wrote a book entitled Flying Saucer Occupants which enjoyed brisk sales. But, as we were to learn in later years, it was "ahead of its time." One of our colleagues who reviewed the book for a UFO journal labeled it "just another wild book." However, our judgement seems to have been vindicated.  In 1975, the same fellow, writing this time in a large circulation magazine, admitted that investigation of cases involving close encounters with UFO occupants and "abductions" would yield more information about the UFO problems than the fly-over, hovering, or landed UFO cases."

We had such hopes but the abduction crew threw everything away to get themselves celebrity and money.  As I have written before, you can still find people claiming to be 25, 30 or 35 years "Ufology veterans" who sit and shake their heads and state "And then we have the little guys -what's that all about?" Just what have they been doing for 25-35 years??

There was no crash at Aurora in the 19th century -that has been proven beyond doubt. Roswell? No. Spitzbergen -no. We have seen the Flatwoods report, like the Kelly event and even "Mothman" be rebooted and altered and so many 'eye-witnesses' never heard of before popping up to give 'new' information that the original reports mean nothing. Annual pop culture events surround each of these events. 

I am not (I seriously cannot be!) the only one studying these reports and I hope that, like myself, any other researcher is find the correlations in accounts from around the world. 

I'll continue until..they close the lid on me.

I delete posts after a certain time

 A repost to explain as I have been putting a lot of work in to translate and edit and people are stealing (ie publishing on their own sites without credit).

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Exactly what I said would happen months ago. Someone was not reading the posts properly, were they?

I post a feature such as a report or long general article and I leave it up for 48 hours, sometimes I leave it a little longer. When, after that time, I see only 10 or 12 people have checked it and there is no response or comment it gets reverted back to a draft. Reverting it back to a draft means that those info thieves online can stop stealing and using my original research work.

As I have noted before -in 2021, 2020 and 2019- I am not indulging info thieves. Some of the posts may well form chapters in later books and though the books might not sell they provide proof of who did all the work that was stolen online.

Imagine you work all week and then when its time for that pay cheque you are told "Charlie says he did the work so we are paying him."  All the hours you worked and the effort you put in and Charlie gets the credit (even though you have no idea who Charlie is) and the money and praise.  Unfair? Yep, but its an example of how internet thievery works. A couple weeks back I posted a long report and added in photos and maps -many months of research. By the next day that work was chopped up and used by three others who also added fake info that will now go as 'fact'. Lots of congrats on all the work and effort.

You see what I mean?

So I delete posts after a certain time.

Bill Herrmann's hypnotic regression concerning his 1978 UFO experience a...

20th November, 1968 Staffordshire

 

   One might assume that Ufologists in the UK knew of this old case, however, I have not come across one who does which is a pity. The Ufologists involved in this were N. M. H. Turner and W. Daniels and their report was published in Flying Saucer Review (“The Milakovic Report”, FSR vol. 15 no.1, January 1969: pp. 2-3).

   On the 20^th November, 1968, a Yugoslavian couple, Milin and Doris Milakovic along with their son Slavic (11), were driving to their home of 432 Cannock Road, Hednesford, on a farm road across fields, near Hanbury, Staffordshire. Hednesford was described as “a rather small, drab town surrounded by mine workings and not far from the southern end of Cannock Chase.

   Trio had left Hednesford on a house-hunting trip, journeyed through the countryside to Rugeley, Abbots Bromley, and on the road home stopped at Hanbury to view Hanbury Hall, to look at an old house. They were on the Staffordshire-Derbyshire border, midway between Uttoxeter and Burton-on-Trent; there was an Army Central Workshop 3.5 miles to the northwest and a  Royal Air Force ammunition dump 2 miles to the northwest as well as a World War IT airfield used by the Ind Coope brewery firm for light aircraft 2 miles to the south.  The time was between 17:30 – 17:45 hrs and dusk was rapidly approaching.

 

   They first noticed a rabbit running away in the field on their left, then soon several more rabbits fleeing from a hedge on the left side of the road. They then noticed in the field on their left a brilliant object. It was at this point that Mr. Milakovic stopped the car to look at the object as it rose slowly and then flew above the car. All three had now left the car to watch the object and Doris noticed the air temperature felt much warmer as the object flew overhead and then decreased again as it flew away.

 

 Above a sketch made of the Milakovic object

   The object continued flying over the field to their right and then hovered over a house some 100 yards away; Doris specified that the object appeared to be as wide as the house below it.  Here the object quivered "like jelly" –possible heat haze? As for the shape of the object it had a dark bowl-shaped bottom with a clear dome on top. This dome was divided into vertical thirds – one third showing white light, one third, amber light, and the final third, green light.  Inside the lit dome area several humanoid figures were seen moving around and sometimes appeared to bend down as though looking at something below the rim. The trio observed all of this for an estimated 5 minutes.

   After that period of time the object began moving up in a "pulsating or jerky" movement; its light intensity greatly increased and Mr. Milakovic felt his eyes were burning. Mr. Milakovic, normally a brave man, became frightened and pushed both his wife and son into the car and drove away quickly.

   The object made no sound during the entire sighting. The wristwatches of the couple which had been working perfectly before the sighting had, afterwards, been running slow and it was suggested that they might have become magnetise. The Milakovic car was not tested for residual magnetism.  But there is, again, no chronology. We know roughly when the trio were in the car and that at some point they saw the rabbits which drew their attention to the object. There is an estimated 5 minutes of watching the object and entities within but no one seems to have asked at what time the family arrived home.  This could be important for certain reasons.

   Firstly, Mr Milakovic, when driving around with the investigators to find the house with what he thought was an aircraft hangar nearby could not find it. He seems to have become quite worked up over this and then claimed a certain spot to be the locale. He did not think it necessary to go back out with investigators again as he decided the place he picked was correct. Doris had pointed out a location with a house that she was sure was the site of the incident. It should be pointed out that on their journey before the sighting they had to stop and ask an elderly couple for directions. Mr Milakovic was certain the incident had taken place near an airfield.  Slavic would offer nothing as he did not wish to contradict his father.

   All of this confusion regarding location in itself could just be down to losing their way, though both were adamant on the sites they had pointed out.  We then have the second point to note. Mr Milakovic was described as being a fairly brave individual and he had been watching the object with his wife and son but, and only at this point, when the object moved away and the light from it increased and hurt his eyes (“felt as though his eyes were burning”) did he become “thoroughly alarmed”. Doris and Slavic felt a mixture of excitement, curiosity and apprehension. As they drove off the object was still over the field.

   Did more happen to the trio? We will never know because there appears never to have been a follow-up. There were reported threatening phone calls to keep away from the airfield and a group of students were supposed to turn up to take photographs and ask questions but never did.

 

 

Why Scientists Think They'll Find an Alien City Very Soon | Unveiled

Humanoid Encounters 1900-1929 : The Others Amongst Us by Albert Rosales

 

• ASIN ‏ : ‎ B09FS2TR45
• Publisher ‏ : ‎ Independently published (6 Aug. 2021)
• Language ‏ : ‎ English
• Paperback ‏ : ‎ 258 pages
• ISBN-13 ‏ : ‎ 979-8548708656
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The World's most amazing Humanoid encounter cases. 

The bizarre, real, global reports of; UFO occupants - Ultraterrestrials, Extraterrestrials, Intraterrestrials, Robots and more. Mysterious beings - Bigfoot, Flying Humanoids, Lightbeings, Skinwalkers and even stranger exotic humanoids. 

Albert S. Rosales is the world's leading expert on humanoid encounter cases.

Can I just say that the line "Albert S. Rosales is the world's leading expert on humanoid encounter cases" is absolute bull-poop. Firstly, not all the cases involve humanoid entities and really you need to investigate and research and even then you most certainly are not an "expert" -after almost 50 years I would never call myself an "expert". There is also the intro where Rosales calls out unnamed people for using his data uncredited. That is a huge pile of bull poop. and I will explain why.

Firstly, there are no investigations or case studies and this appears to be just a listing of known cases -a list you can find by going to the Hynek Center for UFO Studies and checking out Ted Bloecher and David F. Webb's Hum Cat index cards. Add a few cases such as you can find in many online sources and that's it. Aleister Crowley is on the cover and I looked twice and could not recall any account of his meeting humanoids (aliens etc). Well, the photo is again included in the book as someone one associated with Crowley is mention. uh-huh.

If you go the URE CAT (English and French version) you will find many of these reports (unless they are investigated and very few are investigated, you cannot call them cases) I know are fake, hoaxes and some are inaccurate which is why I gather as many sources as possible for my files. So calling out people who Rosales thinks took 'his' work (and it is available online anyway) is a tad rich.  Compiling a list of report summaries does not make you an expert on any subject let alone UFOs or CE3K/AE reports.

Now that I have disposed of the bull-shit let's look at the actual book. Typing the summaries up and compiling a book is work so even if some cases are not kosher (genuine) that deserves credit. What this series will be useful for is research and if you are looking up UFO sightings from 1900 or the 1920s and wonder whether there were any CE3K/AE reports from that period -open this book up and you can check. Never ever take it as 100% accurate but look at any reports and seek out other sources to see if they are consistent and always go back to the original source quoted. 

Hyperbole is part and parcel of selling and in publishing it is almost a must so I can look past that and the fact that no investigation or research is carried out and shown I can see these volumes as very useful for their reference sources as well as for adding cases you know of to it. I am about investigation and research so I may seem a tad harsh (people quote their "favourite tales" from the book like it is a collection of old fairy tales!) but that does not hide the fact that for reference this book is fine.

Will I be buying other volumes? Hmm. Possibly for a set of handy references (my files are far too bulky to keep pulling off the shelves!) so if you just want a collection of reports for a read or to base your own research on this is okay.