The article by The Telegraph reporter Sarah Knapton carries the following headline and story https://uk.yahoo.com/news/prepare-alien-encounter-now-too-214309862.html (images added)
Prepare for alien encounter now before it's too late, warn scientists
Aliens could get in touch tomorrow and we must know what to say to them, scientists have warned, as they launched a new research hub to prepare humanity for first contact.
The University of St Andrews has joined forces with the UK SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Research Network to establish protocols and procedures if aliens are found.
The team warn that although there are measures in place for dealing with threats posed by asteroid impacts, there is no agreed response if a radio signal were picked up from another intelligent lifeform.
The Seti Post-Detection Hub will bring together experts from around the world to decide how to decipher methods, enact space law and anticipate societal impacts.
Dr John Elliott, honorary research fellow in the School of Computer Science at St Andrews and coordinator of the Hub, said: “Will we ever get a message from ET? We don’t know. We also don’t know when this is going to happen.
“But we do know that we cannot afford to be ill prepared – scientifically, socially, and politically rudderless – for an event that could turn into reality as early as tomorrow and which we cannot afford to mismanage.
“We need to
coordinate our expert knowledge not only for assessing the evidence
but also for considering the human social response, as our
understanding progresses and what we know and what we don’t know is
communicated. And the time to do this is now.”
Truth is out
there
Protocols need
updating
The potential for problems in communicating with alien life was explored in the fourth instalment of the Star Trek film franchise, The Voyage Home.
In depicts an alien probe sending out a message that inadvertently plays havoc with human technology with the crisis only resolved when Kirk and his crew realise it is trying to communicate with the planet's whales.
Many scientists now think that intelligent life elsewhere in the universe is a real possibility, and Nasa recently launched an eight-month inquiry to investigate hundreds of unexplained UFO sightings.
The
investigation into "unidentified aerial phenomena" is being
led by Dr Thomas Zurbuchen, of Nasa’s Science Mission Directorate,
and is due to report back next summer.
Last year, the Pentagon's
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force released a report into 144
UFO incidents between 2004 and 2021, many of which were spotted by
military pilots.
Although investigators concluded that there was no evidence the objects had come from outer space, or a foreign adversary, they said that most could not be explained.
Currently, the only existing agreed "contact" protocols for encountering alien life were drawn up by the SETI community itself in 1989, and have not been revised since 2010. But they focus entirely on scientific conduct.
The Royal Society held a Scientific Discussion Meeting on "The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society" in 2010 but there has been no global agreement on how to handle contact.
Learning how to decipher an alien language or method of communication is likely to be one of the major hurdles that experts will need to consider.
In a recent BBC documentary First Contact: An Alien Encounter, scientists admitted it may never be possible to understand what aliens are trying to tell us.
Dr Alexander Rehding, professor of music at Harvard University, said humans had still not learned how to translate animal communication.
“Whales are a really good study, and they are in some ways the closest thing that we have to aliens here on Earth,” he said.
“Whales are highly intelligent, and their environment is entirely different from ours. The patterns that we hear are purely patterns that we recognise as music, repeated patterns.
“It is a form of vocalising but we don't really know what it's for. Is it music, is it a language? What does it mean? It can give us a sense of how difficult the task at hand is.”
Dr Elliott admitted that deciphering an alien language would be tricky without some kind of extraterrestrial Rosetta Stone.
“Nevertheless, much can be gleaned, without this. Language for intelligent species has a structured system that is multi-layered and has internal structure," he said.
“By identifying any patterns within the signal and calculating how these patterns interact, we will then be able to know if it passes this initial surface structure test for displaying evidence of being language-like.
“If so, we will then be able to move on to identifying internal structures displayed by all known intelligent species. Once this is done, we can then move onto deeper levels of ‘syntax’ to ultimately where it ‘meets’ semantics.”
William Borucki, a former Nasa space scientist, added: “When I look at how Hollywood portrays contact, one of the things that I think is unreal, is that people that can readily communicate and have similar ambitions, similar responses.
“But when I think about intelligent life, and the variety of it on Earth, we've got dogs, we've got apes, we've got octopi that have their intelligence in their arms, not in their head.
“We can't talk to most of the creatures on Earth in an intelligent way. How are we going to talk to intelligent civilisations? I'm not sure we'll ever understand.”
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Here again we see that the news item is taking its lead from the UAP Task Force and, of course, that has become hip and trendy to refer to in items online, TV and elsewhere. But let's not go into Elizondo and the "false disclosure" here.
What we are seeing is astronomers and others, who should have been looking into UFO reports from the very outset running around like headless chickens. Science allowed itself to throw aside scientific principles and reasoning because they were being told what the do by the intelligence community and anti-UFO debunkers who were profiting from a in the employ of the intelligence community. Those who even dared look into reports were bullied, blacklisted and pushed out of their jobs and this led some to eventual suicide.
Look at the astrophysicist and celebrity loving Neil deGrasse Tyson who dismisses UFO reports by not even looking at any details. He is on the record -in print and in online interviews (such as on You Tube) stating that he is not going to spoend any of his valuable professional time looking at UFOs. That immediately negates his worth as a scientist. Imagine all the scientific discoveries made NOT being made because "I am not going to spend any of my valuable time on this" prevailed. He loves the publicity and money that brings and that's where it stops.
The fact that Neil deGrasse Tyson is looked upon by many as the scientist to go to his opinion is worthless because he will not look at the subject and there are many astronomers who take that lead and brush off the idea of UFOs being worth anything but a laugh.
Had science and in particular astronomers and those involved in SETI actually studied the available reports from, say, 1950 onward then they would have come across the Close Encounters of the Third Kind cases. But, oh “silly little green men stories -beneath us!” The fact that these intellectually stunted people keep repeating “little green men” ad infinitum shows how derelict their scientific capacity is.
Unfortunately, Hopkins, Jacobs, Mack and the other High Priests of Abduction made a mockery of real research on the subject for thirty plus years and this was encouraged by social club Ufology with its money-making aims. Science can take a lot of the blame but Ufology has a sizeable chunk on its back.
Let’s ignore the Contactee reports. Look at the CE3K reports and those tell us a lot about how alleged aliens communicate. We have to remember that there is no 100% solid proof of alien encounters just very strong anecdotal evidence; the type of evidence which has (if you follow the news) just seen three people in the UK and U. S. convicted in criminal courts. The problem is that science (not all scientists as I know that there have been a few open-minded on the UFO subject well before the UAP craze) will not look into a case it cannot dismiss.
1) three people out for a drive at night are chased by an oval shaped UFO
2) all three report an abduction experience
3) all three suffer physiological (burns/radiation sickness) and psychological problems (post traumatic stress)
4) at the same time as the trio were being chased and independent observer saw a car being chased by a bright object on the same road
5) that same evening there are UFO reports from the area.
6) a UFO was detected by local radar
Each of these points would need to be investigated and dismissed -radar would need to be proven faulty, the independent observations would all need to be proven to be hallucinations or misidentifications and it would need to be explained how three percipients got a dose of radiation poisoning and burns on a short road trip along a quiet road and why all three were medically judged to be suffering from psychological trauma. “They saw Venus” is just not going to work here.
What these people are currently looking for are jobs that pay well on committees so they can sit back and pontificate on how we can communicate with aliens. Prestige job, free lunches and not really do much.
I probably have more credentials regarding studying alien (alleged) life and communications than anyone at SETI!
There is a real and genuine fear amongst people on SETI and astronomers that we will be contacted by aliens. Or may have been studied by such. As I pointed out in UFO Contact? the invention of the radio was the work of many great minds over the course of several decades during the 19th century, although the first transmission was made in 1895. Since that time radio, TV and other radio signals (not SETI) ave travelled out in a 200 light year diameter from Earth. Check my posts on our nearest solar systems to see how many are covered in that 200 ly diameter.
The SETI people are supposing that aliens advanced enough to visit Earth are so dumb that they never thought to themselves “I wonder how Earth people communicate?” However, Science (collectively) is not that bright. Back in the 1960s Carl Sagan stated that one or two visits might be likely, however, “due to the vastness of space” regular visits are very unlikely. In fact Sagan once argued that there was a “statistical likelihood that Earth was visited by an advanced extraterrestrial civilization at least once during historical times.”
deGrasse Tyson had a huge man-crush on Sagan https://blankonblank.org/interviews/carl-sagan-extraterrestrials-religion-aliens-life-planets-mars-galaxies-stars/ so it’s a pity he loves the celebrity more than science. Then again, maybe he never read Sagan’s work.
The one problem that astronomers and SETI keep throwing up is “the vast distances of space that rule out interplanetary travel”. Firstly, I do not think that there is any evidence that there is intelligent life that has originated on any other planet than Earth. What they actually mean is “inter-solar system” travel at best. The idea that the Milky Way has no other life in it therefore we have to concentrate on galaxies far, far away is Prof. Dumb and Dumber in charge. Again, possibly fear that advanced civilisations may be nearby. Someone/thing sits back in the Andromeda galaxy and points at the Milky Way: “Let’s not bother with our own galaxy, we’re in it -let’s travel to that one!” Dumb and Dumber thinking again.
Officially, even if Science accepted UFO cases, no one has officially met aliens. We can only go by the reports and once the natural phenomenon is excluded to leave us with only clearly seen and described constructed objects that we know are not “from around here” then we can say “If they ain’t from around here then they come from somewhere else!” Going by the reports that the debunkers have failed to explain away we would find that there are clues as to possible power sources as well as how far advanced these visitors are. I, and this is just my opinion, do not believe that they have travelled from the Andromeda galaxy or any galaxy that Ufologists have promoted: they think stating a galaxy name is like stating “that planet over there”.
For any confused Ufologists out there:
Solar System: a sun together with a group of celestial bodies (planets, asteroids etc) that are held by its attraction and revolve around it. Aka: planetary system.
Galaxy: a system of millions or billions of stars, together with gas and dust, held together by gravitational attraction.
Now, our sun (Sol) belongs to a galaxy called the Milky Way. Astronomers estimate there are about 100 thousand million stars in the Milky Way alone. Then comes the bigger scientific estimate for the Milky Way galaxy: how many (possible) planets are in it?
Our Sun hosts eight planets (until it is discovered Planet 10 is excluded), so planets might be more numerous depending on circumstance and causality; however, in our galaxy, the Milky Way, there are estimated to be at the least around 100 billion planets. If, say, you exclude 99% of that estimate you are still left with 1 billion planets. There are 59,722 stars visible with a telescope within 100 light-years of our solar system.
This is why I fail to understand why SETI does not concentrate on nearer systems. We cannot, after all, now hide our transmissions or the fact that we are here. We cannot hide the fact that we are so consumed by political wrangling and love of war that we spend multi billions of $/£ each year on these and have been so backward in supporting space flight that apart from probes humans have failed to get to its nearest neighbour, our Moon, since December 1972 with Apollo 17. That is 50 years -we were told that by now we would have lunar bases and manned flights to Mars would have taken place instead a few rich people have taken up private (financial) spaceflight. We are not the brightest in the galaxy.
An advanced civilisation might be far less interested in politics (a purely Terran concept) and may not even have had any conflict in its past. The idea that the (self grandised) ‘experts’ keep pushing is that there are probably no alien civilisations because, “like us”, these civilisations “can only last so far before destroying themselves in war”. These experts (X=The Unknown while “spurt” is a drip under pressure) can only think in terrestrial terms and that in itself shows that they are scientifically redundant. When one of these persons refers to UFO reports as “crap” well, says a great deal more about that person than UFO reports. After all, they got a piece of paper from a university so they know better than anyone else. Physicist Brian Cox and deGrasse Tyson are perfect examples. Their intellectual thinking appears far below that of such people as Michio Kaku, the American theoretical physicist, futurist, and popularizer of science (science communicator). He is a professor of theoretical physics in the City College of New York and CUNY Graduate Center. Kaku is the author of several books about physics and related topics and has made frequent appearances on radio, television, and film. He is also a regular contributor to his own blog, as well as other popular media outlets. For his efforts to bridge science and science fiction, he is a 2021 Sir Arthur Clarke Lifetime Achievement Awardee. A scientist who thinks in other words.
We also look at planets based on our knowledge of Earth and how life developed here. Up until a decade or so ago if anyone suggested that there was water throughout our own solar system they would have been shouted down. Now we know that it isa fairly “common”. Exo-planets have been detected that seem to have water on them. The problem is that astronomers speculate so much and digital art images are pushed out every time that people imagine the planets have been observed and studied and these are images based on those observations. Also, when you announce observing a gas giant and put forward the usual scientific poo-poo about it no one asks questions. A few questions are asked when that gas giant...is lost (maybe someone struck a match a little too close to it?).
Science bases everything on our knowledge of Earth (while still arguing about other planetary bodies and aspects of Earth itself) and our technology. You know, the technology that can spend multi billions on new stealth military aircraft but has to buy space on a ‘taxi’ to get its own crews to the International Space station (I am looking at you, America). Had the military budget for two years (including black ops budgets) been pushed into the space program itself think what might have been achieved? Basing everything on Us and Earth is not a good idea but for some it’s easier.
We have seen (if we accept the reports) that UFOBs (constructed objects) are far superior to anything we have on Earth. These entities did not neglect science and their space program or whatever project(s) they had; they got to work. We need to check for clues in the reports of landings and airborne objects.
“We’ve not proved scientifically that telepathy exists! It’s all woo-woo!” Well, there is anecdotal evidence but, as with Ufologists being ignorant of scientific developments, so those involved in science do not keep up with or show interest in fields that bring them, personally, anything. Again it is this self grandisement where no one knows anything other than them.
Ufology has similar in the Believer and Debunker camps and followers will accept anything fed to them. Its all about money and celebrity. Even aftyer having their work exposed there are still those promoting Hopkins, Jacobs and Mack. What they reveal about “alien communication” can be considered pure fantasy right down to alleged alien symbols. So we, again, have to look at how percipients/observers describe behaviour and communication with “aliens”.
M. Masse at Valensole allegedly communicated with two entities and was invited into their craft. He declined and that was it. A conversation followed that he took to his grave but he did not believe the Hill case as there was no attempt to abduct him. There are other landing reports where people are invited aboard a landed craft but decline -nothing. There are cases where an over enthusiastic witness attempts to run toward a landed object -he is waved back just as we might wave someone back from danger and on the occasion when the warning is not heeded either the object takes off or “fires” a warning beam in front of the person.
If Sagan was correct and there was an alien visitation in the past then it is possible that race either pops back over every so often or (unless an isolationist race) their knowledge is shared with other races. All conjecture but it would make sense. That weapons (hand held) fail to work or the holder is paralysed to a degree shows that there is some knowledge of humans and terrestrial weapons -think of all of those broadcasts.
Are they a threat? Well, to our world-view, possibly. Though it seems more people are willing to accept alien life now than before. Looking at the technology reported (it is the best that we can do) then there is no doubt that if the intent was hostile Earth would have been taken over in a day. We have to think that the greatest enemy is our own fear and the utter stupidity displayed by the ”experts” and their daft statements.
When it comes down to it the SETI people and hangers-on have to consider the fact that any aliens coming here would be aware of our language and what we do -the idea of a priest vaporized as he approaches a landed UFO with his hands raised and white flag in one hand...a bit daft. Logically it makes no sense especially if they have viewed our TV and seen what a white flag and hands in the air means.
Go back to the UFO reports and study them. Far more will be learnt from them than any over indulgent lunch and three hours of pontification.
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